2019 Monaco Grand Prix - Monte Carlo, May 23-26

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I am still trying to understand what Max was doing with that attempt on Hamilton . Yeah, we can go with the narrative that nothing changed in the end, but taking the championship leader out of the race would be atrocious.

I think It was a good race for Monaco's standards
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GPR -A wrote:
26 May 2019, 17:39
notsofast wrote:
26 May 2019, 17:37
FIA/FOM has in fact listened to all the Monaco-haters and given you more options. There are 20 races on the calendar besides Monaco, twice as many as when your father was watching F1. Don't like Monaco? Just skip it and enjoy the other 20.
If you can let the FIA know that, if they make this last race of the season, we all can have Christmas preparations earlier. That's a good fix. Oh, as Brawn had suggested sometime back, if FIA can also make this a "POINTsLESS" race, as it already is, then the world would be a good place.
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You know that when they had that contact with 2 laps remaining, Hamilton wasn't pretending or being a crybaby. Haters were out in full force trying to mock him. Goes to show you don't know sh!t.
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How many people think that, if Max would have touched Vettel (in place of Hamilton), Vettel wouldn't have spun? For some reason, Vettel's car simply spins in a contact.

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GPR -A wrote:
26 May 2019, 17:50
How many people think that, if Max would have touched Vettel (in place of Hamilton), Vettel wouldn't have spun? For some reason, Vettel's car simply spins in a contact.
Didn’t the other Ferrari do something similar today?

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bauc wrote:
26 May 2019, 17:42
For Monaco, this was a good race, I'm pleased.
Indeed.
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GPR -A wrote:
26 May 2019, 17:50
How many people think that, if Max would have touched Vettel (in place of Hamilton), Vettel wouldn't have spun? For some reason, Vettel's car simply spins in a contact.

https://i.imgur.com/PAGLEqY.png
HAM cleary caught sleeping there.
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Bill_Kar wrote:
26 May 2019, 17:45
I am still trying to understand what Max was doing with that attempt on Hamilton . Yeah, we can go with the narrative that nothing changed in the end, but taking the championship leader out of the race would be atrocious.

I think It was a good race for Monaco's standards
I max could have passed Hamilton and was able to create a gap he could have been on the podium. If Hamilton had come under pressure from Vettel which cost him a little time it was even possible for Max to get onto the second step of the podium
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FrukostScones wrote:
26 May 2019, 17:54
GPR -A wrote:
26 May 2019, 17:50
How many people think that, if Max would have touched Vettel (in place of Hamilton), Vettel wouldn't have spun? For some reason, Vettel's car simply spins in a contact.

https://i.imgur.com/PAGLEqY.png
HAM cleary caught sleeping there.
Isn't it true for every driver who gets dive-bombed by Max? China 2018?

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I for one enjoyed this race... I guess that it depends on what are you expecting and paying attention to during the race.

The strategy from Mclaren to have Norris hold up and build a gap for Sainz to pit and come out in front of him (allowing Sainz to jump both Ricciardo and Magnussen) was interesting to watch... Surprised that STR didn’t try to make an undercut with either driver and they timed it just right.

Hamilton’s drive was really good if one considers the mental aspect of it... It is easier to keep a car in the lead at Monaco that is underpowered than a car that is losing front grip, especially if you have a driver like Verstappen behind you and as close as he always was... If your front grip isn’t there, your braking points are different, you are constantly concerned about locking (and further destroying your tires and having to pit or simply being passed with the car behind you in within a second from you)... Understeer is also pretty stressful in a track that penalizes any mistakes and could have easily hit a barrier... I can only imagine the stress inside the car, not an easy drive for sure.


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nevill3 wrote:
26 May 2019, 17:57
Bill_Kar wrote:
26 May 2019, 17:45
I am still trying to understand what Max was doing with that attempt on Hamilton . Yeah, we can go with the narrative that nothing changed in the end, but taking the championship leader out of the race would be atrocious.

I think It was a good race for Monaco's standards
I max could have passed Hamilton and was able to create a gap he could have been on the podium. If Hamilton had come under pressure from Vettel which cost him a little time it was even possible for Max to get onto the second step of the podium
There was the motive, agreed. I'm not saying he was paranoid.
But the risk simply wasn't worthy, it was a Mercedes in front of you in Monaco. It would never stick.

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ENGINE TUNER wrote:
26 May 2019, 17:12
Dr. Acula wrote:
26 May 2019, 17:06
komninosm wrote:
26 May 2019, 17:03
How did Bottas lose the place to Vettel? I missed that.
Bottas pited a second time during safety car.
BOT had a puncture from the 2nd time VER crashed into him in the pit lane and so had to pit again.
How come he only lost 1 place? After exiting the pits, driving behind the safety car, with a puncture, and other cars surely should have reached the group of the first?

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Regarding Charles, it might be an unpopular opinion, but I didn't like it at all.
I thought he was driven from his anger and he just did stupid things inside the track. Granted, he would gain only a handful of points, but you need the spirit, never give up, maximise what you can get from the race.

Seeing him crashing here and there, I just couldn't believe this is the Charles who will be a star one day.

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Restomaniac wrote:
26 May 2019, 17:43
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By using the logic that we shouldn’t follow the rules then what’s next to help. Allowing 1 driver to ignore fuel limits?
Well, if rotated randomly, that might spice things up .. especially when the rest of the field doesn't know who it is beforehand.
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Bill_Kar wrote:
26 May 2019, 18:00

There was the motive, agreed. I'm not saying he was paranoid.
But the risk simply wasn't worthy, it was a Mercedes in front of you in Monaco. It would never stick.
Max had a tyre advantage over Hamilton and would have easily been able to pull a gap, if that had been a couple of laps earlier he could have even won. Hamiltons tyres were dead and he would have been under enormous pressure to keep within 5 seconds of Max had he let him past
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