SR71 wrote:Senna77 wrote:SR71 wrote:
Kyvatt is still young so let's see what he can do in 2016.
I love how all of the above counts in DR vs DK, but none of the above similarities count when its DR vs SV.
Classic bias.
You claimed Kyvatt beat Ricciardo fair and square. I pointed out how extremely biased you were step by step in detail .
Did you aknowledge any of the facts or details ?
No
Your reply?
Call me biased and change topic now praising Vettel saying he is better than Ricciardo because same facts applied.
Kyvatt beat Ricciardo by 3 points and i explained in detail that the points did not tell the entire story.
Yet Ricciardo did not beat Vettel by 3 points but a WOPPING 71 points. a Deficit 2000% greater so why are you comparing a 3 point gap to 71 point gap with no facts?
You insinuated in earlier replies Vettel left due to an exit clause. No facts or evidence not once supported this.
Alonso was under contract for 2015. The only way Vettel was going to Ferrari was if Alonso decided to leave. This decision was not made till at least mid year.
More importantly in Japan Christian Horner confirmed Vettel is going to Ferrari. Did Vettel in the final races start beating Ricciardo? No he got thrashed as always.
Most experts agree Hamilton is 1 step above Rosberg because when both put the hammer and both push to the limit in clear air Hamilton is on average .1 second faster than Rosberg in races. So hamilton is lets say 1 level above Rosberg. tiny gap
Ricciardo proved he is at least 5 to 10 levels above Vettel all year long. Absolutely no comparison. I will explain below
Webber was by far the worst starter in F1 in that redbull. Then when Ricciardo joined he went from a decent starter to the worst on the grid in 2014. That is what makes him a 10 times better racer than Vettel that he fell to the back or midfield almost every race then fought his way back overtaking Vettel almost every single time from the back. Ricciardo kept claiming the clutch was to blame. And when they changed it in spa 2015 you see his starts all of a sudden were very good. So clearly that problem was car related and fixed now. But lets say Vettel is better off the start which he clearly overall was. That's the only area he was quicker than Ricciardo.
In race pace, lap times, consistancy, overtaking, defending, no mistakes, qualifying, etc etc Ricciardo is hands down better
Bahrain another problem start from Ricciardo caused him to fall back stuck behind cars entire race. He was stuck behind Vettel being massively held up. How do we know? Once he passed Vettel with 5 laps to go he put the hammer down. And Vettel could not keep up. Ricciardo averaged 1 second a lap quicker and was the only time this race we actually saw these guys head to head in clear air. 1 second is something not even schumacher could manage over Barrichelo. Hamilton not once managed this gap ever when hammer was down with both cars on same tyre strategy. First clear indicator Ricciardo was 10 levels above Vettel.
China again Ricciardo was behind Vettel lapping a good half a second faster. 5 levels above him. He was told to move over. Vettel said tough luck and fought to the death to keep ricciardo behind and failed. Another clear indication Vettel was highly motivated. But once through Ricciardo opened another huge gap and Vettel couldn't keep up
Canada. Ricciardo again was stuck behind Vettel being massively held up. When Vettel pitted as he was in front and has race preference to pitt first, and get undercut as he is leading car what did Ricciardo do? Ricciardo was so much quicker he put hammer down and actually got the overcut on old tyres by pitting second. Only possible by team mates when you are at least 10 levels above them and being massively held up. He then overtook Rosberg who had a brocken ERS for the win. Vettel pushed but could not even pass a damaged rosberg. He fought hard but nowhere near as good as Ricciardo in overtaking and settled for 3rd. he tried was highly motivated but clearly 10 steps below in talent.
Hungary Vettel again pushed like he never has before. He was abusing the track limits and astroturf so hard Brundle even commented he playing with fire. Why did Vettel push so hard if he trying to break contract? Vettel pushed harder in this race then he ever pushed the past 5 years as back then he never needed to push the car was so quick, he could manage the pace from front. This was 1 of the first races in 5 years Vettel pushed so hard and got so ragged it was clear as day watching him. and what happened? Vettel pushed so hard he spun around and hit the wall. Ricciardo was lapping much much faster all race and won the race while Vettel was again down in 6th. Nowhere to be seen and struggling to overtake much slower cars. Again Ricciardo 10 levels above here to claim the win.
Spa Vettel was ahead of Ricciardo right at the beginning. So tyres were fresh. When Ricciardo was behind Vettel pushed so hard he went off the track losing control nearly killing himself possibly. Something we never saw from Vettel as he never needed to push to the limits like this in the previous 5 years. Proving he drove his heart out even losing control trying to keep Ricciardo behind but again failed. Ricciardo then from lap 1 to lap 44 was averaging 1-2 seconds a lap quicker to win the race while Vettel was down in 6th. It was not 1 lucky lap but every single lap. Fresh tyres or old tyres no matter what he was quicker. 10 levels above. Gaps not even Schumacher managed over Barrichelo
Monza: Ricciardo another clutch problem he claims that dropped him back to 12th while Vettel was in 4th.
He drove the entire race lapping up to 1-2 seconds quicker than his team mate and caught him. Now when he overtook Kimi, Button and 5 other cars all at the end of the straight all did not block the inside line as no point.
Vettel here proved he was the hungriest and most motivated on track as he locked up holding inside line nearly crashing Ricciardo not to let him through. Something no driver would do trying to break a contract. Then Ricciardo passed him like he was standing still. Again in this race Hamilton was .1 seconds quicker than Rosberg when hammer was down. Ricciardo was a HUGE 1-2 seconds entire race. 10 levels above. There is just no comparison with these drivers.
By Japan Horner on TV live confirmed Vettel is going to Ferrari so if you believe Vettel was driving slow to break contract which is fairytales when you watch the races. Then now Vettel is free to race Ricciardo according to his fairytale.
Austin it "seems" Vettel had a good race as gained so many places. But watch the lap chart again. From the 1st lap to the final lap Vettel was a wopping 1-2 seconds a lap slower than Ricciardo. Another huge gap not 1 driver in 2014 had to their team mate. Not even Schumacher in his prime enjoyed such a massive gap over Barrichelo. 10 levels above again this race.
Abhu Dhabi both cars started from the pitt lane. Ricciardo again was lapping much quicker and made it to 4th just shy of podium. Vettel was only 8th and could not even get past a much slower (over 1 second) Button which Ricciardo made easy work of. Proving once again Ricciardo is 10 levels above in race pace and overtaking ability this race.
Also Vettel demanded and got 4 new chassis. When Webber struggled he was not given any. Not 1 driver in the history of F1 i can ever recall ever being beaten by a team mate demanded 4 new chassis. Even after he kept getting thrashed Vettel demanded another chassis with new updates. If Vettel wanted to go Ferrari he would not be demanding new chassis to beat Ricciardo. Wouldn't he be doing everything he can to lose? Yet the team did everything they could to allow him to beat Ricciardo. But no matter what he never beat him on track fair and square as he is just not as fast.
Vettel was by far the most motivated driver in 2014 to beat his teammate. But even as highly motivated as Vettel was by demanding and getting 4 new chassis he was still nowhere near Ricciardo in pace or talent.
The only issue Ricciardo had was the clutch and starts in 2014. But in spa 2015 this was fixed so this weakness of Ricciardo's has dissapeared now. Otherwise in 2014 Ricciardo would have thrashed Vettel by an even bigger margin and not just 71 points.
There were 15 races were both cars finished. It was 12/3 Ricciardo. Total thrashing and similar to schumacher over Barrichelo stats on paper. But in races the gap was far far greater.
In Qualifying it was 10 Ricciardo 9 Vettel
Ricciardo 8 podiums Vettel 4 podiums
Ricciardo 3 wins Vettel 0 wins
On race day the gap was 1 of the greatest i have ever seen between 2 team mates. Ricciardo won 3 races where Vettel was down in 3rd 5th and 6th not even close. And this didnt happen 1 time. But over 19 races. From race 1 to the final race. No Matter what the gap was the same and consistent and usually between half a second to usually 1-2 seconds when both were in clear air and had the hammer down.
Not 1 level gap between Hamilton and Rosberg. Not 5 level gap betwen Schumacher and Barrichelo. But 10 level gap.
In "EQUAL MACHINARY" Vettel is no match for Ricciardo and never will be.
