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A training Fin Not dressed in PumaLookBackTime wrote:What can be seen in the pictures? =D>
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Why mid season? The chassis changes were already done in 2015 for the 2016 season. As far as I can see it they were running it for the full 2016 season and it was only discovered by AMuS? roughly mid season.Just_a_fan wrote:At least Mercedes know what the system was worth as they brought it in mid season. They know what to expect of the car when its removed. Presumably they will revert to the "early 2016" system.
I was under the impression it was only raced from mid-season. If it was on all year then they might well have a few more difficulties. Pre-season is already all hands to the pumps and this will probably double the work rate for them up to Australia.basti313 wrote:Why mid season? The chassis changes were already done in 2015 for the 2016 season. As far as I can see it they were running it for the full 2016 season and it was only discovered by AMuS? roughly mid season.Just_a_fan wrote:At least Mercedes know what the system was worth as they brought it in mid season. They know what to expect of the car when its removed. Presumably they will revert to the "early 2016" system.
Taking the words of Paddy, I rather looks to me that they were starting to work on the energy recovery when FRIC was banned and already had it in the 2015 car. Thus, the chassis changes for 2016 made it just more powerful by giving it more space.
IMO Merc had the fastest car last season, but I don't think it's because it has a chassis that is on par with Red Bull. I think last season Red Bull and Honda had a better chassis than Merc, but Merc IMO had the upper hand thanks to a more and better developed aero package, a stronger PU and this trick suspension which is banned right now. I wonder what the effects are without this trick suspension. Will we revert back to early 2013 where the Merc were quick over 1 lap, but eating away its tires on race trim? It's exciting none the least these rumours. If it bunches up the pack even better, but I still want the Merc the car to beat next season.Just_a_fan wrote:I was under the impression it was only raced from mid-season. If it was on all year then they might well have a few more difficulties. Pre-season is already all hands to the pumps and this will probably double the work rate for them up to Australia.basti313 wrote:Why mid season? The chassis changes were already done in 2015 for the 2016 season. As far as I can see it they were running it for the full 2016 season and it was only discovered by AMuS? roughly mid season.Just_a_fan wrote:At least Mercedes know what the system was worth as they brought it in mid season. They know what to expect of the car when its removed. Presumably they will revert to the "early 2016" system.
Taking the words of Paddy, I rather looks to me that they were starting to work on the energy recovery when FRIC was banned and already had it in the 2015 car. Thus, the chassis changes for 2016 made it just more powerful by giving it more space.
It will be extremely funny if Mercedes and RedBull remove their systems and are still faster than Ferrari this coming season. I shall chuckle lightly to myself.
Sorry my mistake, Yes I meant Mclaren.Facts Only wrote:By Honda I assume you mean McLaren.... and you think that last year they had a better chassis than Merc?!?! What world are you living in?
Surely the "chassis" includes the suspension system? Otherwise it just refers to the tub and that doesn't do much other than carry loads.WaikeCU wrote: IMO Merc had the fastest car last season, but I don't think it's because it has a chassis that is on par with Red Bull. I think last season Red Bull and Honda had a better chassis than Merc, but Merc IMO had the upper hand thanks to a more and better developed aero package, a stronger PU and this trick suspension which is banned right now. I wonder what the effects are without this trick suspension. Will we revert back to early 2013 where the Merc were quick over 1 lap, but eating away its tires on race trim? It's exciting none the least these rumours. If it bunches up the pack even better, but I still want the Merc the car to beat next season.
Does the floor count?Just_a_fan wrote:Surely the "chassis" includes the suspension system? Otherwise it just refers to the tub and that doesn't do much other than carry loads.WaikeCU wrote: IMO Merc had the fastest car last season, but I don't think it's because it has a chassis that is on par with Red Bull. I think last season Red Bull and Honda had a better chassis than Merc, but Merc IMO had the upper hand thanks to a more and better developed aero package, a stronger PU and this trick suspension which is banned right now. I wonder what the effects are without this trick suspension. Will we revert back to early 2013 where the Merc were quick over 1 lap, but eating away its tires on race trim? It's exciting none the least these rumours. If it bunches up the pack even better, but I still want the Merc the car to beat next season.
If the suspension system used by Mercedes was better than the one used by RedBull, then Mercedes had a better chassis than RedBull.
Yes, maybe we all should laugh at the person next to you who doesn't know more than you. =D>Facts Only wrote:I needed a good laugh this morning, cheers.