Does F1 need another tweak to overtaking rules?

[PapayaFan481]

Seems like you are looking at T4, and Lando was making that corner 100%, Max hits Lando his front left and forces Lando off track and to cut the chicane. Into T4 Lando comes with DRS and slipstream and brakes earlier and is 17kph slower than when he start braking on his fast lap (294v277). I don't think you can watch the onboard and think that there is any doubt that Lando would have made that corner on his own.

Then into T7-8 Lando is quite simply a lot slower, he's 30kph slower than his fast lap and 40kph slower than Max on entry to T7 and again takes away his front left.

I will agree that Lando did pass off track in T4 and should have been penalized for that.

Horner did only show the data for T4, he argued Norris went in to get to the apex first and force a penalty on Max without any intent to make the corner. Not sure about intent, but he wouldn't have made the corner without a lot more brake and a lot sooner than he did apply it, especially T5.

So Horner argued that Lando should have gotten a penalty for basically doing what Max did last week without getting a penalty?

Seems about right for Mr Horner.

[Farnborough]

Have a look at this at 12:20 timeline onward



The manoeuvre and just as important, the attitude in commentary from that KR vs MS failed overtake.

Oh how attitude changes all the snivelling and ball aching nowadays, from drivers and commentary around the net. Pathetic really, isn't it ?

And that era, BOTH the lead driver AND the challenging one new when to back out of it generally, at least they accepted that.

All the analysis, drawing lines on "VAR" type viewing scenarios .... whats the point really .... we want to see real racing, not whingeing.

[dialtone]

Have a look at this at 12:20 timeline onward



The manoeuvre and just as important, the attitude in commentary from that KR vs MS failed overtake.

Oh how attitude changes all the snivelling and ball aching nowadays, from drivers and commentary around the net. Pathetic really, isn't it ?

And that era, BOTH the lead driver AND the challenging one new when to back out of it generally, at least they accepted that.

All the analysis, drawing lines on "VAR" type viewing scenarios .... whats the point really .... we want to see real racing, not whingeing.

I'm not sure what your argument is... You liked that? Basically almost passed Raikkonen who just pushed MS in the grass, albeit a lot more gently than driver do today, and that's it. "Duel" finished in a corner because after that Raikkonen was 2s ahead. That was bad for the show, the sport has made huge steps forward from that era.