2025 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

[ScuderiaLeo]

Curious… How does Vasseur know what others are investing?

I am sure teams know generally what other teams are doing, they just don't know the specifics. Verstappen said as much this season.

It's also just logical to assume a team like Mercedes is not going to invest as much into 2025 as McLaren or Ferrari.

[PDR]

Good morning and Happy New Year to all ! "Expert's" articles will not define the outcome of 2025 championship! The analysis of results of last year championship, indicate clearly that Ferrari, was very consistent in race pace.
In the majority of occasions was at least second fastest team, no matter the pecking order of the other teams.
Ferrari was the team with more podium finishes, even if they had plenty of misfortunes including health issues in the beginning of the year. Qualifying was not their strength, but it was a compromise they have chosen to live with.
Not successful update package of Spain was the main reason they have not won the WCC. But their recovery was really impressive.
In any case 2025, will be tight.

[Sphere3758]

I have always read mixed feedback on how aligned Charles and Lewis’s driving styles are. Could someone here shed some light on this topic?

And in the areas where they differ, how do you expect Ferrari to lean? I am sure the first version of the car is not changeable anymore, but talking about the upgrades.

[Xyz22]

I have always read mixed feedback on how aligned Charles and Lewis’s driving styles are. Could someone here shed some light on this topic?

And in the areas where they differ, how do you expect Ferrari to lean? I am sure the first version of the car is not changeable anymore, but talking about the upgrades.

The reality is that we don't really know.

[denyall]

I have always read mixed feedback on how aligned Charles and Lewis’s driving styles are. Could someone here shed some light on this topic?

And in the areas where they differ, how do you expect Ferrari to lean? I am sure the first version of the car is not changeable anymore, but talking about the upgrades.

The reality is that we don't really know.

Indeed

I think a mountain was made out of this topic last season. Reality is the base car didn't like getting hustled the way LH wanted too and as such he wasn't able to get as much out of the car as GR was. It wasn't developed in favor of either driver, but rather the car being designed for the theoretical maximum.

The 2025 Ferrari will be similarly designed to a theoretical max that will either be to LH liking, CL liking, neither, or both and only time will tell. Only sure thing is that it will be debated ad nauseum and the mods will be playing referee all season.

[Sphere3758]

I have always read mixed feedback on how aligned Charles and Lewis’s driving styles are. Could someone here shed some light on this topic?

And in the areas where they differ, how do you expect Ferrari to lean? I am sure the first version of the car is not changeable anymore, but talking about the upgrades.

The reality is that we don't really know.

Indeed

I think a mountain was made out of this topic last season. Reality is the base car didn't like getting hustled the way LH wanted too and as such he wasn't able to get as much out of the car as GR was. It wasn't developed in favor of either driver, but rather the car being designed for the theoretical maximum.

The 2025 Ferrari will be similarly designed to a theoretical max that will either be to LH liking, CL liking, neither, or both and only time will tell. Only sure thing is that it will be debated ad nauseum and the mods will be playing referee all season.

I am not convinced on this. A theoretical max , which does not take the drivers preference to account, would be suboptimal. I remember reading a quote from Pierre Wache in 2023 (will try finding it) about how Max Verstappen’s ability to handle a loose rear lets them focus on front downforce which is easier to do. We’ve also seen Mercedes move the cockpit position based on feedback from Lewis. So, the driver can play a very important role.

Regarding the 2025 car, I would assume that Carlos has had no real feedback and it is almost exclusively Charles. If the car ends up not to his liking, it would be quite shocking to say the least

[denyall]

The reality is that we don't really know.

Indeed

I think a mountain was made out of this topic last season. Reality is the base car didn't like getting hustled the way LH wanted too and as such he wasn't able to get as much out of the car as GR was. It wasn't developed in favor of either driver, but rather the car being designed for the theoretical maximum.

The 2025 Ferrari will be similarly designed to a theoretical max that will either be to LH liking, CL liking, neither, or both and only time will tell. Only sure thing is that it will be debated ad nauseum and the mods will be playing referee all season.

I am not convinced on this. A theoretical max , which does not take the drivers preference to account, would be suboptimal. I remember reading a quote from Pierre Wache in 2023 (will try finding it) about how Max Verstappen’s ability to handle a loose rear lets them focus on front downforce which is easier to do. We’ve also seen Mercedes move the cockpit position based on feedback from Lewis. So, the driver can play a very important role.

Regarding the 2025 car, I would assume that Carlos has had no real feedback and it is almost exclusively Charles. If the car ends up not to his liking, it would be quite shocking to say the least

Re: drivers feedback, between seasons yes, in season not as much. The pathway for in season development is set (or usually is) in February, and only a mid season philosophy shift would open the door for changes in fundamental car "feeling". For me the cockpit thing at Merc was a symptom, not the bug, as is evidenced by not making a difference for LH once moved.

I'd agree that the 25' Ferrari has a very good chance of being to CL liking. It damn well should! I'm very interested in how similar/dissimilar CL and LH are with car balance and if the Ferrari will have the setup window to accommodate both. Is it February yet?

[Luscion]

New suits and a "more intense shade of red" on the car in 2025

https://autoracer.it/en/ferrari-to-unve ... y-for-2025

[deadhead]

New suits and a "more intense shade of red" on the car in 2025

https://autoracer.it/en/ferrari-to-unve ... y-for-2025

More importantly no more bare carbon bits at random places on the car for weight savings…

[KimiRai]

a "more intense shade of red" on the car

Now we are talking!

[ScuderiaLeo]

New suits and a "more intense shade of red" on the car in 2025

https://autoracer.it/en/ferrari-to-unve ... y-for-2025

I hope they actually mean this... but knowing them, their "intense shade of red" might just be 1% more red than 2024's