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Well, for all of you that insist on using Firefox, even though it has pretty horrible memory holes, and can swell up past 800 megs of usage even though you are doing nothing:
Guys, I've got a problem. On my netbook (with XP) I unchecked every toolbar (browsing bar, adress bar...) in FF, and I can't check them back now.
Now everything a right click in the top grey part will earn me is about managing tabs.
Since I've no browsing bar anymore, I can't reach any of the "File", "Edit", "Display", "Tools" buttons. At least I learnt to pop up an adress box with "alt+D" and open bookmarks with "ctrl+B", but it can't beat the comfort of using the regular bars.
Anyone know how to get those damned bars back? [-o<
vyselegend wrote:Guys, I've got a problem. On my netbook (with XP) I unchecked every toolbar (browsing bar, adress bar...) in FF, and I can't check them back now.
Now everything a right click in the top grey part will earn me is about managing tabs.
Since I've no browsing bar anymore, I can't reach any of the "File", "Edit", "Display", "Tools" buttons. At least I learnt to pop up an adress box with "alt+D" and open bookmarks with "ctrl+B", but it can't beat the comfort of using the regular bars.
Anyone know how to get those damned bars back? [-o<
Try "alt-v" that should get the tools bar up. It will hopefully pop the "view" bar up where you can re-select the bars you want in the toolbars section. Menu Bar first mind.
"It could be done manually. It would take quite a while, but it could be done. There is however a much more efficient and accurate way of getting the data. Men with lasers." Wing Commander Andy Green
I first thought it wasn't working because nothing happened while pressin "alt+v", but it's just because you have to press those keys for more than one second, maybe two.
"It could be done manually. It would take quite a while, but it could be done. There is however a much more efficient and accurate way of getting the data. Men with lasers." Wing Commander Andy Green
Is it just me or the new Opera is hideously buggy?
Version information
Version
10.51
Build
3315
Platform
Win32
System
Windows XP
XHTML+Voice
Plug-in not loaded
Browser identification
Opera/9.80 (Windows NT 5.1; U; en-GB) Presto/2.5.22 Version/10.51
- it's never able to close itself (when you close it, the process is still there so you need to shut the process down for example to install new flash player)
- I've upgraded the flash player about a million times yesterday and today but youtube says "Go Upgrade!" anyway. Firefox worked fine even before I updated flash player.
- Every time you close a tab with pdf in it Opera crashes. I've lost a few huge forum posts because of closing tabs with FIA regs or race schedules.
- You can't download from RSS feed (when you click 'save image as' or 'save content as' the file then is listed in the downloads with 'error' next to it. Also the pictures and videos in RSS feeds either don't show up, or disappear shortly after opening (sometimes partially).
It has been awhile since this version was released. I expected them to release a fixed version ASAP but they didn't, so I'm thinking of installing an older one now.
Pandamasque wrote:Is it just me or the new Opera is hideously buggy?
Version information
Version
10.51
Build
3315
Platform
Win32
System
Windows XP
XHTML+Voice
Plug-in not loaded
Browser identification
Opera/9.80 (Windows NT 5.1; U; en-GB) Presto/2.5.22 Version/10.51
- it's never able to close itself (when you close it, the process is still there so you need to shut the process down for example to install new flash player)
- I've upgraded the flash player about a million times yesterday and today but youtube says "Go Upgrade!" anyway. Firefox worked fine even before I updated flash player.
- Every time you close a tab with pdf in it Opera crashes. I've lost a few huge forum posts because of closing tabs with FIA regs or race schedules.
- You can't download from RSS feed (when you click 'save image as' or 'save content as' the file then is listed in the downloads with 'error' next to it. Also the pictures and videos in RSS feeds either don't show up, or disappear shortly after opening (sometimes partially).
It has been awhile I I expected them to release a fixed version ASAP but they didn't, so I'm thinking of installing an older one now.
Alot of the XP builds are getting stick for not working in the betas too. I'm using it now, in Ubuntu 10.04 and it works reasonably well. Had that youtube thing but somehow it works now. It'll be fixed soon no doubt.
edit: might be worth updating ones Java. That's what was updated on my system that seemed to make the difference.
"It could be done manually. It would take quite a while, but it could be done. There is however a much more efficient and accurate way of getting the data. Men with lasers." Wing Commander Andy Green
Thanks for the tips. I installed the snapshot and updated Java. It's somewhat better. RSS bugs are much less frequent. Stability issues remained though (crashed twice today)
hmm, it's a beta or alpha for windows. So they're to be expected...within reason.
On Linux(Ubuntu 10.04...had to install it as I annihilated Windows ), Opera works perfectly fine, for me anyway.
The snapshots are updated at least once a week (on a friday UK) I checked just now and they have another one, for fixing bugs haha. Quite a few for Windows, so stability may improve now. Not sure if it's the one you installed recently, this one is build 10.52_3363.
"It could be done manually. It would take quite a while, but it could be done. There is however a much more efficient and accurate way of getting the data. Men with lasers." Wing Commander Andy Green
In case you live under a rock with an iPhone, there is now an Opera browser you can DL for it for free from the App store.
It is much faster, and far less robust than the native Safari browser. It compresses the pages on their own server and sends them to you, so it is also less secure, so don't do your banking on it.
For looking up stuff quick, it's great, for slightly richer content, not so much.
Before I do anything I ask myself “Would an idiot do that?” And if the answer is yes, I do not do that thing. - Dwight Schrute
My preferences in Windows (which I use to develop RAW files from my Nikon camera and kill zombies) are Firefox and Chrome. IE8 seems to be at least halfway decent, though. It's good to know that browser competition has forced microsoft to improve. What's unsettling is the large amount of people still stuck at IE6. Seriously? That's a security compromise.
On Linux, which I use most of the time (Ubuntu on my laptop, Debian on a former PC, and Red Hat in PC's I don't managage), I've used firefox, epiphany-gecko (basically firefox), opera, arora (Webkit-based Qt browser), konqueror 3 and 4, and finally crhome. I haven't used epiphany-webkit yet.
Most of the time I browse with firefox, especially due to adblock+. Before any of you say anything, I've got it disabled at F1T. It's unfortunate that it feels like mozilla treats linux as a second class citizen: no profile-guided optimisations in their linux builds, no official x86_64 builds, issues forcing ubuntu to disable JIT in 64bit firefox... you name it. 3.6 is decent, though.
Someone mentioned firefox' memory usage. There was a recent report at Tom's Hardware, and while Firefox memory consumption is somewhat high at startup, once you open tabs is perhaps the most memory efficient browser. 64bit firefox is now using 75 Mb non-shared in my laptop.
Chrome is... well, chrome is mostly awesome. It loads swiftly, and browses well. However, the adblocking plugins don't work well: they don't make browsing phoronix.com any faster. I also dislike the google privacy policy, which means I may switch to chromium (and forget about h.264 in HTML5 video).
I never really got on well with Opera.
Finally, a firefox tip: Ctrl+Shift+T restores the last tab you closed, and keeps restoring tabs (I don't know how far, though). This has been working for a long time.
Ah! And while Webkit is indeed an Apple project, it's nothing more than a fork of KHTML which is the html engine the KDE guys wrote for konqueror. There is a reason why the sourcecode of webkit is lying around there...
I am not amazed by F1 cars in Monaco. I want to see them driving in the A8 highway: Variable radius corners, negative banking, and extreme narrowings that Tilke has never dreamed off. Oh, yes, and "beautiful" weather tops it all.
"Prediction is very difficult, especially about the future." Niels Bohr
Miguel wrote:It's good to know that browser competition has forced microsoft to improve. What's unsettling is the large amount of people still stuck at IE6. Seriously? That's a security compromise.
That's a security FAIL.
Not much of compromise. LOL.
But I agree with the rest of your post. Firefox is still really good. All the addons they got are really worth it. And when you have 6 gigs of RAM, it doesn't really matter anymore.
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Miguel wrote:It's good to know that browser competition has forced microsoft to improve. What's unsettling is the large amount of people still stuck at IE6. Seriously? That's a security compromise.
That's a security FAIL.
Not much of compromise. LOL.
But I agree with the rest of your post. Firefox is still really good. All the addons they got are really worth it. And when you have 6 gigs of RAM, it doesn't really matter anymore.
Holy crap, I feel the language barrier at work!
I mean it in a good way. I've been known to say a couple of funny sentences when talking. It was worth a good laugh once I realised what I was actually saying.
I am not amazed by F1 cars in Monaco. I want to see them driving in the A8 highway: Variable radius corners, negative banking, and extreme narrowings that Tilke has never dreamed off. Oh, yes, and "beautiful" weather tops it all.
"Prediction is very difficult, especially about the future." Niels Bohr
), Opera works perfectly fine, for me anyway.
