2017 Mclaren F1 Team - Honda

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Since the diffusor is now so much bigger could it be that teams will no longer look to build front part of chassis so high up and nose as well and we see more esteticly beautiful cars like pre 2009?

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well they aren't allowed to build high noses anymore thanks to the restrictions on the nose dimensions and locations.

as for the wings, the reason we don't see such amazing shaped wings like back then - despite the detail of the wings are amazing - is that
the form of the centre part of the wing is mandated, and now mandated to be v-shaped.
we won't be seeing a 'flowing' wing like in the mclaren above due to the regulations.

the complicated wing shapes of the past few years will stay, as will rake and floor aerodynamics, bargeboards, and the rear wing end
plates will have interesting shapes paired to rear brake ducts and also front brake ducts.

i hope restrictions will be somewhat lifted in the coming years. if the new owners are able to find a believable and executable 'spending ceiling' then i think a lot of restrictions will be removed and we're going to see vastly more different designs and approaches. but that's still far away at this point.
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It is a mis-information to state that the diffuser is so much bigger, it is just as big as 2013

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FW17 wrote:It is a mis-information to state that the diffuser is so much bigger, it is just as big as 2013
Really? I can't remember that the diffuser got smaller from 2013 to 2014.

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2014: 175-125 mm

now 125-175 mm

They wanted 350mm but then after Merc objected they settled for 175mm

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FW17 wrote:2014: 175-125 mm

now 125-175 mm

They wanted 350mm but then after Merc objected they settled for 175mm
What was the size in 2013?
I remeber in one interview Vandoorne said car look very agressive due to huge diffuser from the back!?
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Diffuser since 2011 was 125mm high and started from the rear wheel center line! For 2017 the diffuser is 175mm high and starts 175mm before the rear wheel center line! Also it becomes wider from 1000mm to 1050mm for 2017!! Red Bull proposed a 225mm high and 330mm long diffuser but it was rejected in favor of Mclaren's proposal! I would really love to see what would have happened to the lap times had they gone for Red Bull's proposal!! :P
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AMG.Tzan wrote:Diffuser since 2011 was 125mm high and started from the rear wheel center line! For 2017 the diffuser is 175mm high and starts 175mm before the rear wheel center line! Also it becomes wider from 1000mm to 1050mm for 2017!! Red Bull proposed a 225mm high and 330mm long diffuser but it was rejected in favor of Mclaren's proposal! I would really love to see what would have happened to the lap times had they gone for Red Bull's proposal!! :P
I would say its much bigger then.... :) :)
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GoranF1 wrote:Since the diffusor is now so much bigger could it be that teams will no longer look to build front part of chassis so high up and nose as well and we see more esteticly beautiful cars like pre 2009?

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diffuser wrote:
GoranF1 wrote:Since the diffusor is now so much bigger could it be that teams will no longer look to build front part of chassis so high up and nose as well and we see more esteticly beautiful cars like pre 2009?

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AMG.Tzan wrote:Diffuser since 2011 was 125mm high and started from the rear wheel center line! For 2017 the diffuser is 175mm high and starts 175mm before the rear wheel center line! Also it becomes wider from 1000mm to 1050mm for 2017!! Red Bull proposed a 225mm high and 330mm long diffuser but it was rejected in favor of Mclaren's proposal! I would really love to see what would have happened to the lap times had they gone for Red Bull's proposal!! :P

Guess you are right, I forgot the change after DDD

2009 was 175mm
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Overall diffuser volume is more than doubled for 2017 so it's reasonable to say it's "bigger".

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Those exhausts with rear LED lights look like an angry kraken waiting for an attack on the ship :D
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Thunders wrote:Seems like it's official:
https://twitter.com/andrewbensonf1/stat ... 9105403904
Too bad, obviously Mclaren still goes trough internal shuffle of staff after Ron's Departure
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