F1 2020 Pre-Season Testing Thread

[LM10]

Nice straw man. Now read what I’ve actually posted instead of what you wanted me to post.

I know, you've told "if" and I agree with you. Just mean the general fuss now.

Then why feel the need to quote me?

I’m not getting involved in your silly games. Bye.

I'm not into silly games, don't worry.

[Juzh]

Race Sim comparison between Hamilton and Verstappen.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ERTHDP9WsAA ... me=900x900

gg, pack it up bois.

[godlameroso]

One way to hide your pace, even on race sims, is to top up the fuel tank between stints. You can easily add .7 to your pace by carrying an extra stint's worth of fuel. The pace difference between a full and empty tank is worth ~3 seconds around here. If you don't see that kind of pace drop off, then they're either driving to a delta or carrying extra fuel.

[godlameroso]

Race Sim comparison between Hamilton and Verstappen.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ERTHDP9WsAA ... me=900x900

gg, pack it up bois.

Wouldn't read too much into it, that's slower pace than Verstappen managed in the race last year, and this car is both faster and conditions are better.

[waynes]

if the same gap exists with Ferrari not having much running this time next week i'll be more worried.

[Juzh]

Race Sim comparison between Hamilton and Verstappen.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ERTHDP9WsAA ... me=900x900

gg, pack it up bois.

Wouldn't read too much into it, that's slower pace than Verstappen managed in the race last year, and this car is both faster and conditions are better.

I noticed that too. But also hamilton did 69 laps instead of 66. I just hope you're right and RB is hiding pace because this race sim looks depressing.

[Restomaniac]

DAS banned for 2021. Didn’t the 2021 regs pretty much state that anyway?

[Phil]

If Mattia is sandbagging then dang, really rock on heart kind of stuff.

Doesn't sound good does it.

Why is it important what teams tell? Last year Hamilton told that they had a steep hill to climb to beat the Ferraris. He was right with the steep hill, but there were on the high end of the hill.

And they did. They might have won many GPs, but that was more because of Ferrari's failure rather than their own flawless execution.

Most people simply like to forget that the first race of the season (Melbourne) is NOT representative. Bahrain is and Ferrari were the car to beat, just as they seemed to be right on top of their game at last years winter tests.

[godlameroso]

Doesn't sound good does it.

Why is it important what teams tell? Last year Hamilton told that they had a steep hill to climb to beat the Ferraris. He was right with the steep hill, but there were on the high end of the hill.

And they did. They might have won many GPs, but that was more because of Ferrari's failure rather than their own flawless execution.

Most people simply like to forget that the first race of the season (Melbourne) is NOT representative. Bahrain is and Ferrari were the car to beat, just as they seemed to be right on top of their game at last years winter tests.

Bahrain is very dependent on power and braking stability, there aren't many corners where downforce can make a huge difference. Plus the numerous heavy braking zones let you get away with a lot of K harvesting. Melbourne is a point and squirt track mostly but you do need good downforce because the tarmac is low grip, there are high and medium speed corners, and downforce lets you carry more speed through the chicanes.

[matt_b]

DAS banned for 2021. Didn’t the 2021 regs pretty much state that anyway?

Yes Mercedes already know this but will reap the benefits while others spend half the season developing their own solution knowing it will be useless next season.

[LM10]

Doesn't sound good does it.

Why is it important what teams tell? Last year Hamilton told that they had a steep hill to climb to beat the Ferraris. He was right with the steep hill, but there were on the high end of the hill.

And they did. They might have won many GPs, but that was more because of Ferrari's failure rather than their own flawless execution.

Most people simply like to forget that the first race of the season (Melbourne) is NOT representative. Bahrain is and Ferrari were the car to beat, just as they seemed to be right on top of their game at last years winter tests.

They didn't climb any hill. They just understood their car which they brought in test week 2. No upgrades whatsoever after all. Mercedes knew they were going to fast as hell.

What's more, Bahrain isn't really representative either.

[etusch]

DAS banned for 2021. Didn’t the 2021 regs pretty much state that anyway?

Why they don't ban it this year too. If someone try to built same system on their car when they can not use it next year is a kind of waste

[HJKM]

HAAS done driving this week...

Guenther Steiner explains Magnussen's puncture that ended Haas's session early: "What happened, we had an issue with the wheel spacer which then resulted in the wheel touching inside and deflating. Not a good end to our testing; we can live with that. It takes too long to fix and we will now prepare for next week. These things happen, they shouldn’t, and that’s racing."

[GPR-A]

DAS banned for 2021. Didn’t the 2021 regs pretty much state that anyway?

Why they don't ban it this year too. If someone try to built same system on their car when they can not use it next year is a kind of waste

It's a choice that teams have. Whether they want to invest and build something that they don't fully understand OR use that money on some of the areas on their own car that they already know how much they can further build and optimize.

[Restomaniac]

DAS banned for 2021. Didn’t the 2021 regs pretty much state that anyway?

Why they don't ban it this year too. If someone try to built same system on their car when they can not use it next year is a kind of waste

They don’t HAVE to. In fact it may not be worth the effort. Mercedes gets a years grace before the regs actually change which stops it in 2021 anyway. The FIA are in a tight spot here. If they have green lighted an idea that’s taken 6 months to lead to it appearing on the car then Mercedes are in a position to ask WTF???