2022 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix - Yas Marina, Nov 18 - 20

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Leclerc is not the best driver on the grid, today showed (he said it himself, he gave 110% were his words) that he hasn’t always been on it. Max always is. For me that is where he needs to improve the most.

How can you people be so insecure that you need to keep saying this to yourselves after a season like this?

Saying Max alwqys gives 110% after a race where Max didn't have to do anything literally, the car got him there at 50% push...

And its a car which matches his driving , looks to do everything he asks from it. Then Honda did all they could with this engine.

[AMG.Tzan]

People saying "Max always gives 110% and is always on it" maybe should check back on 2010-2013 and a guy called Sebastian Vettel!

Was Vettel unstoppable back then?? Yes he was! Did people think that he'll break every single record and be the new Schumacher?? Yes they did. Did Vettel make the other drivers like Hamilton and Alonso look like not being consistent enough to beat him back then?? Yes he did!

Yet, here we are 2022 and Vettel has been bleached so many times since 2013 that he's now retiring, let's say a bit early! Did he forget how to drive since 2013?? No! Did the others get better since 2013?? No! What happened then?? He just never had a car to suit him that much again! That's exactly what's happening with Verstapen right now!

So stop thinking Max is doing something special right now and he's the only one giving it 110%! Great Champions have done in the past, Schumacher, Hamilton, Vettel, Senna, Prost etc! If your car isn't up to the task of winning, you just can't do enough and you end up looking like not giving it your all!

[Sieper]

People saying "Max always gives 110% and is always on it" maybe should check back on 2010-2013 and a guy called Sebastian Vettel!

Was Vettel unstoppable back then?? Yes he was! Did people think that he'll break every single record and be the new Schumacher?? Yes they did. Did Vettel make the other drivers like Hamilton and Alonso look like not being consistent enough to beat him back then?? Yes he did!

Yet, here we are 2022 and Vettel has been bleached so many times since 2013 that he's now retiring, let's say a bit early! Did he forget how to drive since 2013?? No! Did the others get better since 2013?? No! What happened then?? He just never had a car to suit him that much again! That's exactly what's happening with Verstapen right now!

So stop thinking Max is doing something special right now and he's the only one giving it 110%! Great Champions have done in the past, Schumacher, Hamilton, Vettel, Senna, Prost etc! If your car isn't up to the task of winning, you just can't do enough and you end up looking like not giving it your all!

No one said that. Vanja misread my post. Leclerc said he gave 110% today.

I merely said Max is always on it. I have not have him seen off the pace in the 7 years he is racing F1. He is just relentless in that department.

[Vanja #66]

Singapore, Brazil, Silverstone, Monaco clearly didn't happen

[Spoutnik]

As always when there's a RB dominance everyone think it's very very special. I will judge Verstappen when he leaves the "RB family" if it happens. For sure he's on it, his race pace is robotic as is his tyre management skills, but he has not shown anything different than Vettel during his prime at RB, apart the fact that he can be really weird in wheel to wheel battle.

[Spoutnik]

Singapore, Brazil, Silverstone, Monaco clearly didn't happen

All of these could've been victories despite his mistakes
Which shows how difficult it is to judge this season

Nevertheless, I have to say the only moment where he looked "not in control" recently was the last four races in 2021. He showed his limits, but he never did since

[Dee]

Singapore, Brazil, Silverstone, Monaco clearly didn't happen

Singapore - not his fault the team made a mistake in qualifying
Silverstone - his car hit debris and lost performance
Monaco - Checo crashed bringing out a red flag while Max was on a faster lap
Brazil - a bad race but mostly due to a racing incident

Did you watch this year?

[Spoutnik]

Singapore, Brazil, Silverstone, Monaco clearly didn't happen

Singapore - not his fault the team made a mistake in qualifying
Silverstone - his car hit debris and lost performance
Monaco - Checo crashed bringing out a red flag while Max was on a faster lap
Brazil - a bad race but mostly due to a racing incident

Did you watch this year?

Singapore - Braked on the rain patch and went out in doing so
Silverstone - Did a 360 in Q3, was faster than Sainz all weekend, if he put it together he would've been on pole
Monaco - Slower than Perez, Sainz and Leclerc all weekend. Wasn't going to start on pole even if he was improving
Brazil - Contact with Sainz during the sprint. Reckless move on Sunday for an already crownd world champion...

[Ben1980]

A great driver can't win a title without a great car.

Max is a brilliant driver with a brilliant car.
Lewis is a brilliant driver who had a brilliant car.

Max isn't suddenly better then lewis because he has a better car.

It's so easy to ho overboard in drivers.

As already mentioned, Vettell being cade in point.

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Singapore, Brazil, Silverstone, Monaco clearly didn't happen

Singapore - not his fault the team made a mistake in qualifying
Silverstone - his car hit debris and lost performance
Monaco - Checo crashed bringing out a red flag while Max was on a faster lap
Brazil - a bad race but mostly due to a racing incident

Did you watch this year?

Singapore - Braked on the rain patch and went out in doing so
Silverstone - Did a 360 in Q3, was faster than Sainz all weekend, if he put it together he would've been on pole
Monaco - Slower than Perez, Sainz and Leclerc all weekend. Wasn't going to start on pole even if he was improving
Brazil - Contact with Sainz during the sprint. Reckless move on Sunday for an already crownd world champion...

Max's other run in Q3 run where he was on for pole was yellow flagged by Charles spinning in front of him at Silverstone, and then on Sunday Max got past Sainz twice on track and was leading twice (and likely would've cruised to victory) before hitting the debris.

Considering Silverstone a bad weekend due to an extremely wet affected qualifying is just ridiculous especially considering at that part of the season, the RB was far from outright best on 1-lap pace so second behind Sainz in Q3 was actually a decent result for RB

[Spoutnik]

Singapore - not his fault the team made a mistake in qualifying
Silverstone - his car hit debris and lost performance
Monaco - Checo crashed bringing out a red flag while Max was on a faster lap
Brazil - a bad race but mostly due to a racing incident

Did you watch this year?

Singapore - Braked on the rain patch and went out in doing so
Silverstone - Did a 360 in Q3, was faster than Sainz all weekend, if he put it together he would've been on pole
Monaco - Slower than Perez, Sainz and Leclerc all weekend. Wasn't going to start on pole even if he was improving
Brazil - Contact with Sainz during the sprint. Reckless move on Sunday for an already crownd world champion...

Max's other run in Q3 run where he was on for pole was yellow flagged by Charles spinning in front of him at Silverstone, and then on Sunday Max got past Sainz twice on track and was leading twice (and likely would've cruised to victory) before hitting the debris.

Considering Silverstone a bad weekend xud to qualifying is ridiculous especially considering at that part of the season, the RB was far from outright best on 1-lap pace so second behind Sainz was actually a decent result on Saturday.

He would've probably won this race without the debris, I'm just saying he wasn't faultless

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Singapore - Braked on the rain patch and went out in doing so
Silverstone - Did a 360 in Q3, was faster than Sainz all weekend, if he put it together he would've been on pole
Monaco - Slower than Perez, Sainz and Leclerc all weekend. Wasn't going to start on pole even if he was improving
Brazil - Contact with Sainz during the sprint. Reckless move on Sunday for an already crownd world champion...

Max's other run in Q3 run where he was on for pole was yellow flagged by Charles spinning in front of him at Silverstone, and then on Sunday Max got past Sainz twice on track and was leading twice (and likely would've cruised to victory) before hitting the debris.

Considering Silverstone a bad weekend xud to qualifying is ridiculous especially considering at that part of the season, the RB was far from outright best on 1-lap pace so second behind Sainz was actually a decent result on Saturday.

He would've probably won this race without the debris, I'm just saying he wasn't faultless

Max's only truly faultless weekends if we're considering it like this were Imola, Mexico, Zandvoort and Spa then

[Spoutnik]

Max's other run in Q3 run where he was on for pole was yellow flagged by Charles spinning in front of him at Silverstone, and then on Sunday Max got past Sainz twice on track and was leading twice (and likely would've cruised to victory) before hitting the debris.

Considering Silverstone a bad weekend xud to qualifying is ridiculous especially considering at that part of the season, the RB was far from outright best on 1-lap pace so second behind Sainz was actually a decent result on Saturday.

He would've probably won this race without the debris, I'm just saying he wasn't faultless

Max's only truly faultless weekends if we're considering it like this were Imola, Mexico, Zandvoort and Spa then

Miami too, his best weekend for me

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He would've probably won this race without the debris, I'm just saying he wasn't faultless

Max's only truly faultless weekends if we're considering it like this were Imola, Mexico, Zandvoort and Spa then

Miami too, his best weekend for me

He made a mistake in Q3 on his second lap and was almost beaten by Perez in quali

Not that it would've meant he started any higher, but as you said we're considering every fault here

[Spoutnik]

Max's only truly faultless weekends if we're considering it like this were Imola, Mexico, Zandvoort and Spa then

Miami too, his best weekend for me

He made a mistake in Q3 on his second lap

Yes you are right, forgot it. But he missed so much running time on Friday