The old floor is a reference point for new developments.
The old floor is a reference point for new developments.
these new developments could arrive at Austin in two months, with a 4-week stop after Singapore, which means Max has to hold on for three races (Monza, Baku, Singapore), maybe affording 20-30 points lost
There is nothing to suggest McLaren would be standing still while Red Bull can find a good hair oil that can provide relief from so much of head scratching. Going down a wrong path is like getting sucked into tornado. If Piastri, Ferrari and Mercedes starting getting in between Lando and Max, that's WDC gone. I seriously don't think they can suddenly bring upgrades that can take out 7 tenths deficit to McLaren, especially when they don't know what is going wrong. It's going to be like 2009 here where the driver with the points lead, doesn't have a winning car for the remainder of the season.Sergej wrote: ↑25 Aug 2024, 17:39these new developments could arrive at Austin in two months, with a 4-week stop after Singapore, which means Max has to hold on for three races (Monza, Baku, Singapore), maybe affording 20-30 points lost
resuming at Austin with 40-50 point gap, 6 races to go and a win capable car would be good, but those developments will have to work seriously, Max needs a couple more wins to get the WDC
those 18/25 points lost in Melbourne for the clown show on brakes really hurt
As far as I'm aware Max ran launch spec floor, while Perez ran China spec. I'm not 100% on this, but this is what I read.
Perez was on China spec? Everything makes sense now. The Imola floor was the first of the downgrades. That is the weekend that Perez started struggling to qualify in the top 10 and the weekend that the gap to Max blew up.
Could be the explanation of a massive Norris race pace advantage. Maybe with lower downforce setup the gap could be closer to Mclaren. I can only hope. But for this race no matter the setup, it was always the target to get at least a second or third place. As high-downforce tracks doesnt suit Red Bull, we are better at low-medium speed tracks with long straights.Juzh wrote: ↑25 Aug 2024, 19:23Marko says Verstappen's higher DF setup was a wrong choice as it didnt give him much in the corners but he was losing lots of time on straights. It hard to quantify corner gains, but he was losing around 0.4-0.5s to perez on straights during the race.
Perez also seemed to have less deg towards the end.
The sector gaps to Norris swapped once the deg started to show for Max. Early race Max was circa 2 tenths in sector 1 and 2 over Norris. But once Norris got ahead, that gaps/gains swapped and Norris was managing a stead 2-3tenths across all sectorsJuzh wrote: ↑25 Aug 2024, 19:23Marko says Verstappen's higher DF setup was a wrong choice as it didnt give him much in the corners but he was losing lots of time on straights. It hard to quantify corner gains, but he was losing around 0.4-0.5s to perez on straights during the race.
Perez also seemed to have less deg towards the end.
The information comes from Erik van Haren who both had an interview and is a close friend of Verstappen himself. They are together in the red bull hospitality frequently during race weekends. He's basically a mouthpiece for the Verstappens (Max and Jos). And accordingly he gets information about the car, upgrades etc which is far more reliable than anyone elseFittingMechanics wrote: ↑25 Aug 2024, 19:38Did they say this publicly? Why doesn't Horner say so when Sky asks him about the race. I am quite skeptical of these stories.