2020 Turkish Grand Prix - Instanbul Park, Nov 13 - 15

For ease of use, there is one thread per grand prix where you can discuss everything during that specific GP weekend. You can find these threads here.
User avatar
MtthsMlw
1036
Joined: 12 Jul 2017, 18:38
Location: Germany

Re: 2020 Turkish Grand Prix - Instanbul Park, Nov 13 - 15

Post

Bottas lost his footplate
Image
via @Gianludale27

Just_a_fan
Just_a_fan
593
Joined: 31 Jan 2010, 20:37

Re: 2020 Turkish Grand Prix - Instanbul Park, Nov 13 - 15

Post

My one regret is that we didn't see the current cars flat out on this track. I'd love to see what they could do as a Q3 lap time.
If you are more fortunate than others, build a larger table not a taller fence.

Just_a_fan
Just_a_fan
593
Joined: 31 Jan 2010, 20:37

Re: 2020 Turkish Grand Prix - Instanbul Park, Nov 13 - 15

Post

MtthsMlw wrote:
15 Nov 2020, 16:29
Bottas lost his footplate
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Em3r0gdXEAE ... name=large
via @Gianludale27
Hence the car being a handful. The front wing endplate and footplate are still important for underfloor performance.

You can see how the air is wrapping around the endplate as the muck acts as flow viz.
If you are more fortunate than others, build a larger table not a taller fence.

User avatar
214270
18
Joined: 27 Apr 2019, 18:49

Re: 2020 Turkish Grand Prix - Instanbul Park, Nov 13 - 15

Post

Racer X wrote:
15 Nov 2020, 16:04
214270 wrote:
15 Nov 2020, 15:32
Racer X wrote:
15 Nov 2020, 15:27


Why would RedBull want to help Ferrari. Albon was just being Albon and losing places in the race like Albon does. Anyone around Albon just needs to focus on their race and eventually Albon takes himself out the way.
Lol, you make it sound like ALB made more mistakes than VER this race.
Well with everyone spinning Vettel didn't want to spin Vettel was probably thinking: "Well now I don't wanna."... So THIS race... I guess soo... Or he didn't want to spin as much anyway... Did Vettel spin? Or you guys talking about Max not Vettel...

EDIT

Sorry I read the word "Mistake and spin" and immediately I was like "Oh Vettel". Sorry My bad .... Did not realize you guys were talking about Max...
👍
Team ANTI-HYPE. Prove it, then I’ll anoint you.

User avatar
TAG
20
Joined: 09 Dec 2014, 16:18
Location: in a good place

Re: 2020 Turkish Grand Prix - Instanbul Park, Nov 13 - 15

Post

The most enjoyable portion of the race was watching Seb and Lewis battle it out for position in the first portion of the race. Great defense by Seb, relentless attacking from Hamilton. Who knew the race would transform the way it did! Very enjoyable beginning to end.

One thing's for sure, if you're going to win your 7th title, it's worthwhile to do it in style as it was done today. One race for the history books that won't be a sleeper to re-watch 20 years from now.

As per Max, he really is an impatient driver and does not function well when things don't go his way. A fact really on display today. I'm more convinced now that Red Bull are between a rock and a hard place. They want a better driver than Albon to do well in the championship but they've got to feel that putting someone like Checo in that seat may bring back the Verstappen of Ricciardo era.

Great podium, but I'm looking forward to all out high speed racing for the next few races this year, tired of the tip toeing. LOL
माकडाच्या हाती कोलीत

oT v1
oT v1
0
Joined: 21 May 2012, 15:46

Re: 2020 Turkish Grand Prix - Instanbul Park, Nov 13 - 15

Post

That was a lot of fun! Honestly thought it was Max’s race to lose for the first 25 laps. I think RB will be kicking themselves, they might not have dealt with the ‘old vs new’ Inters question later on in the race but they should have been up there.

Tip of the hat to HAM and PER for their tyre calls, Perez especially with 50 lap old inters (WELL DONE PIRELLI??????, if the haters can admit that)

Good seeing Vet stay in the fight for the whole race and stealing a podium.

Bravo
The Power of Dreams

User avatar
El Scorchio
20
Joined: 29 Jul 2019, 12:41

Re: 2020 Turkish Grand Prix - Instanbul Park, Nov 13 - 15

Post

Just_a_fan wrote:
15 Nov 2020, 16:31
MtthsMlw wrote:
15 Nov 2020, 16:29
Bottas lost his footplate
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Em3r0gdXEAE ... name=large
via @Gianludale27
Hence the car being a handful. The front wing endplate and footplate are still important for underfloor performance.

You can see how the air is wrapping around the endplate as the muck acts as flow viz.
It does make you wonder why they didn’t replace it. But I guess it makes sense as (was it yourself or someone else who said) they might have been reluctant straight away in the anticipation of needing to use multiple parts later on in the race. That’s literally the only thing I can think. Or maybe they just realised the race was as good as done for him by the end of the first lap?

cplchanb
cplchanb
11
Joined: 31 Jan 2017, 19:13

Re: 2020 Turkish Grand Prix - Instanbul Park, Nov 13 - 15

Post

oT v1 wrote:
15 Nov 2020, 16:50
That was a lot of fun! Honestly thought it was Max’s race to lose for the first 25 laps. I think RB will be kicking themselves, they might not have dealt with the ‘old vs new’ Inters question later on in the race but they should have been up there.

Tip of the hat to HAM and PER for their tyre calls, Perez especially with 50 lap old inters (WELL DONE PIRELLI??????, if the haters can admit that)

Good seeing Vet stay in the fight for the whole race and stealing a podium.

Bravo
I wouldn't be praising pirelli just yet... their inters still suck in comparison to Bridgestone. Irrc back in the days they could lap within 3s of dries and does not grain out like butter like what we saw here today

User avatar
214270
18
Joined: 27 Apr 2019, 18:49

Re: 2020 Turkish Grand Prix - Instanbul Park, Nov 13 - 15

Post

El Scorchio wrote:
15 Nov 2020, 16:53
Just_a_fan wrote:
15 Nov 2020, 16:31
MtthsMlw wrote:
15 Nov 2020, 16:29
Bottas lost his footplate
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Em3r0gdXEAE ... name=large
via @Gianludale27
Hence the car being a handful. The front wing endplate and footplate are still important for underfloor performance.

You can see how the air is wrapping around the endplate as the muck acts as flow viz.
It does make you wonder why they didn’t replace it. But I guess it makes sense as (was it yourself or someone else who said) they might have been reluctant straight away in the anticipation of needing to use multiple parts later on in the race. That’s literally the only thing I can think. Or maybe they just realised the race was as good as done for him by the end of the first lap?
According to BOT his steering was sideways after contact with OCO.
Team ANTI-HYPE. Prove it, then I’ll anoint you.

notsofast
notsofast
2
Joined: 10 Oct 2012, 02:56

Re: 2020 Turkish Grand Prix - Instanbul Park, Nov 13 - 15

Post

Mark Webber... smh

Lewis was the only one left on the podium and wanted to take his facemask off. Sure, why not? I would do the same. Instead of backing off to an acceptable distance, Webber goes almost up to Hamilton's face. And then gives him a handshake afterward for good measure. Are we not learning anything??

LM10
LM10
121
Joined: 07 Mar 2018, 00:07

Re: 2020 Turkish Grand Prix - Instanbul Park, Nov 13 - 15

Post

Moore77 wrote:
15 Nov 2020, 15:53
LM10 wrote:
15 Nov 2020, 15:40
Moore77 wrote:
15 Nov 2020, 15:28
Some infants thought it was chaos yesterday. :)
Who are you to call me (and others) an infant? Yesterday was pure chaos, but today's race was better and clearly more sorted with a clear picture of who was doing a better job rather than having more luck.
Stop being a kid. Did I even quote you? I understand why you think today is better as Ferrari performed better and as usual, it was a Mercedes win. In your definition an unusual day when the leading teams get it wrong, is chaos, good luck with it.
I was the only one using "chaotic" as a description of the qualifying. You actually quoted and answered me yesterday as you obviously didn't like my post, so the case is relatively clear for me.

And no, I surely don't think that it's chaos when the leading team gets it wrong.

e30ernest
e30ernest
27
Joined: 29 Feb 2012, 08:47

Re: 2020 Turkish Grand Prix - Instanbul Park, Nov 13 - 15

Post

Wow! What a race!

First of all, a champion's drive by Hamilton. When you get over his usual radio whining, you can see he was very calm and measured with his drive. Never really biting more than he can chew, and biding his time. To come back from over a pitstop behind the leaders to win the race in changing conditions like this, on a car that never really seemed to be hooked-into the track was truly remarkable.

Perez just showed why he deserves a seat by securing second. Where Stroll burned through his tires, Perez nursed it well enough to last the race distance. He had managed his pace well and deserves second spot. His last lap defense and comeback against a much faster Leclerc was decisive. He drove really well here.

And Vettel.... He deserved that third spot. Vettel was the one who shaped the battle up front IMO. Holding back first the Red Bulls and then Hamilton long enough so he could stay in touch with the podium. He never had any glaring mistakes and handled the pressure from various drivers really well. This reminds me of the Vettel of old. A truly measured race from him. His final opportunistic pass was just awesome. I am not normally a Vettel fan, but I stood up and cheered when he passed Leclerc to take 3rd. I hope that podium would mark the beginning of him turning around from this horrid year.

Poor Leclerc.

The Red Bulls... Verstappen was just a mess today. Maybe the car was difficult to drive, but as patient as Hamilton and Vettel were in this race, Verstappen was just totally impatient. You could really see the red mist in the way he drove that car. Albon, well he threw away another one too. I was hoping he and Vettel would get podiums this race when Perez started to look in trouble. But yeah it was not meant to be.

User avatar
Phil
66
Joined: 25 Sep 2012, 16:22

Re: 2020 Turkish Grand Prix - Instanbul Park, Nov 13 - 15

Post

Excellent race, great and consistent performance from Hamilton, but driver of the race to me, was Vettel. So pleased for him to get that podium. Really solid drive and performance from him.

Felt a bit gutted for Stroll too. I’m not a big fan of his, but he deserves the credit for that pole and the first part of the race, doing everything right. In the crucial bits, you could tell the team just didnt have that killer instinct to make the right call and were just hanging on at their finger tips. Well done for Perez for getting that 2nd for the team though, but IMO it was Stroll who deserved that today and just got the wrong end of a strategy call that failed.

RedBull must also be kicking themselves - both drivers were in the best seat to get the win at some point but blew it with spins.

All in all, very good race.
Not for nothing, Rosberg's Championship is the only thing that lends credibility to Hamilton's recent success. Otherwise, he'd just be the guy who's had the best car. — bhall II
#Team44 supporter

User avatar
falonso81
2
Joined: 04 Sep 2013, 15:29

Re: 2020 Turkish Grand Prix - Instanbul Park, Nov 13 - 15

Post

notsofast wrote:
15 Nov 2020, 17:26
Mark Webber... smh

Lewis was the only one left on the podium and wanted to take his facemask off. Sure, why not? I would do the same. Instead of backing off to an acceptable distance, Webber goes almost up to Hamilton's face. And then gives him a handshake afterward for good measure. Are we not learning anything??
Calm down. Are they not getting tested before they enter the track?

User avatar
Moore77
7
Joined: 29 Apr 2019, 12:03

Re: 2020 Turkish Grand Prix - Instanbul Park, Nov 13 - 15

Post

214270 wrote:
15 Nov 2020, 17:08
El Scorchio wrote:
15 Nov 2020, 16:53
Just_a_fan wrote:
15 Nov 2020, 16:31

Hence the car being a handful. The front wing endplate and footplate are still important for underfloor performance.

You can see how the air is wrapping around the endplate as the muck acts as flow viz.
It does make you wonder why they didn’t replace it. But I guess it makes sense as (was it yourself or someone else who said) they might have been reluctant straight away in the anticipation of needing to use multiple parts later on in the race. That’s literally the only thing I can think. Or maybe they just realised the race was as good as done for him by the end of the first lap?
According to BOT his steering was sideways after contact with OCO.
Excuses have become synonymous with Bottas. Hardly surprising that there was a damage. Hamilton keeps winning even with damaged cars or at best he gets decent haul of points with damaged cars. But when Bottas falls behind, he doesn't even show stomach for a fight. Like he said today on radio, race just becomes a looooong stretch for him.
Gangdom: Pom, Tom, Loverboy, Boomer.