2022 - McLaren Formula 1 Team

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NiyolHuayra wrote:
09 Jul 2022, 18:40
So sad to see McLaren go backwards yet again... Looks like the car has hit its peak, also RIC is doing absolutely nothing... we are going to be lucky if we end up in P5 at the end of the season.
Hey?

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Ben1980 wrote:
09 Jul 2022, 18:55
NiyolHuayra wrote:
09 Jul 2022, 18:40
So sad to see McLaren go backwards yet again... Looks like the car has hit its peak, also RIC is doing absolutely nothing... we are going to be lucky if we end up in P5 at the end of the season.
Hey?
Yea, it’s not like Lando was best of the rest in Silverstone and got done over by a poor strategy decision.
Alpine are strong though- they have swapped with Mclaren this season. If Mclaren can get good value for money with the 3.1% budget increase I’d say P5 is safe.
I’m not ecstatic with my comment but it’s reality
Just a fan's point of view

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Darth-Piekus wrote:
09 Jul 2022, 16:25
Personally I'm not gonna watch the Sprint as I'm ill with Covid and tired to watch at the moment.
I hope you feel better soon, I had it 4 weeks ago and I’m only now mostly recovered.
"In downforce we trust"

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runningmanz wrote:
09 Jul 2022, 16:54
Why are they telling Dan to hold position again?
That was dumb, they should have given Daniel a chance to get Bottas and then swapped around if he couldn’t get by. Daniel was clearly faster than Lando and glued to his gearbox fit the whole race.
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NiyolHuayra wrote:
09 Jul 2022, 18:40
So sad to see McLaren go backwards yet again... Looks like the car has hit its peak, also RIC is doing absolutely nothing... we are going to be lucky if we end up in P5 at the end of the season.
Did you even watch the sprint race? Daniel was glued to Lando’s gearbox for the entire race and clearly had a bit more pace.
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djos wrote:
10 Jul 2022, 02:52
NiyolHuayra wrote:
09 Jul 2022, 18:40
So sad to see McLaren go backwards yet again... Looks like the car has hit its peak, also RIC is doing absolutely nothing... we are going to be lucky if we end up in P5 at the end of the season.
Did you even watch the sprint race? Daniel was glued to Lando’s gearbox for the entire race and clearly had a bit more pace.
Yea I watched, we'll see today. I doubt that he'll able to keep up with Lando. As much as I want McLaren to win, i can't see past the obvious. We're going nowhere, look what Merc has been able to do with their car, look at Alpine... :(

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So you watched a race where Daniel was clearly faster and yet you somehow deduced that he will be slower in the next race at the same track! That is a Serious logic fail!
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CjC wrote:
09 Jul 2022, 21:52
Ben1980 wrote:
09 Jul 2022, 18:55
NiyolHuayra wrote:
09 Jul 2022, 18:40
So sad to see McLaren go backwards yet again... Looks like the car has hit its peak, also RIC is doing absolutely nothing... we are going to be lucky if we end up in P5 at the end of the season.
Hey?
Yea, it’s not like Lando was best of the rest in Silverstone and got done over by a poor strategy decision.
Alpine are strong though- they have swapped with Mclaren this season. If Mclaren can get good value for money with the 3.1% budget increase I’d say P5 is safe.
I’m not ecstatic with my comment but it’s reality
Alpine are the real challenger. That's the teams fight. But, for all the Alpine have done, last weekend we were comfortable against them.

I cant see them losing p5 if they can't keep up with Alpine. Other teams are just as inconsistent. And no one can really fight the main 6 cars.

Though only one car not a red bull, merc or ferrari has a podium this year...

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djos wrote:
10 Jul 2022, 04:37
So you watched a race where Daniel was clearly faster and yet you somehow deduced that he will be slower in the next race at the same track! That is a Serious logic fail!
Not sure he was clearly faster. He was maybe faster, but he did have lots of DRS. So it was hard to judge.

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Ben1980 wrote:
10 Jul 2022, 09:24
djos wrote:
10 Jul 2022, 04:37
So you watched a race where Daniel was clearly faster and yet you somehow deduced that he will be slower in the next race at the same track! That is a Serious logic fail!
Not sure he was clearly faster. He was maybe faster, but he did have lots of DRS. So it was hard to judge.
It was similar situation to HAAS where Mick felt he was faster and should have been allowed past Kmag. Steiner said they think he was only thinking he was faster due to 3 big DRS zones.
It could have been the same for RIC, but it would not hurt them to try and let him have a go as Mcl was not under any pressure. Ric even said several times he has more pace and team only replied 'copy, we'll get back to you' but they did not. Bit strange.

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Ben1980 wrote:
10 Jul 2022, 09:24
djos wrote:
10 Jul 2022, 04:37
So you watched a race where Daniel was clearly faster and yet you somehow deduced that he will be slower in the next race at the same track! That is a Serious logic fail!
Not sure he was clearly faster. He was maybe faster, but he did have lots of DRS. So it was hard to judge.
Norris couldn’t hold on to Bottas with drs, so yes he was slower.
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djos wrote:
10 Jul 2022, 10:05
Ben1980 wrote:
10 Jul 2022, 09:24
djos wrote:
10 Jul 2022, 04:37
So you watched a race where Daniel was clearly faster and yet you somehow deduced that he will be slower in the next race at the same track! That is a Serious logic fail!
Not sure he was clearly faster. He was maybe faster, but he did have lots of DRS. So it was hard to judge.
Norris couldn’t hold on to Bottas with drs, so yes he was slower.
Norris was close in the last few laps,
To get DRS when Bottas also had DRS. But we saw how hard it was for the Mercedes to get past a ferrari engined car.

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Seerix wrote:
10 Jul 2022, 09:41
Ben1980 wrote:
10 Jul 2022, 09:24
djos wrote:
10 Jul 2022, 04:37
So you watched a race where Daniel was clearly faster and yet you somehow deduced that he will be slower in the next race at the same track! That is a Serious logic fail!
Not sure he was clearly faster. He was maybe faster, but he did have lots of DRS. So it was hard to judge.
It was similar situation to HAAS where Mick felt he was faster and should have been allowed past Kmag. Steiner said they think he was only thinking he was faster due to 3 big DRS zones.
It could have been the same for RIC, but it would not hurt them to try and let him have a go as Mcl was not under any pressure. Ric even said several times he has more pace and team only replied 'copy, we'll get back to you' but they did not. Bit strange.
Maybe they could of, especially as they said Norris tyres were going after his Albon battles.

Though I'm not sure it woukd have made much difference.

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Ben1980 wrote:
10 Jul 2022, 10:11
djos wrote:
10 Jul 2022, 10:05
Ben1980 wrote:
10 Jul 2022, 09:24


Not sure he was clearly faster. He was maybe faster, but he did have lots of DRS. So it was hard to judge.
Norris couldn’t hold on to Bottas with drs, so yes he was slower.
Norris was close in the last few laps,
To get DRS when Bottas also had DRS. But we saw how hard it was for the Mercedes to get past a ferrari engined car.
Norris spent most of the race over 3 seconds behind Bottas, Daniel spent most of the race 1/2 second behind Norris. Norris only caught Bottas at the end of the race.
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djos wrote:
10 Jul 2022, 10:24
Ben1980 wrote:
10 Jul 2022, 10:11
djos wrote:
10 Jul 2022, 10:05


Norris couldn’t hold on to Bottas with drs, so yes he was slower.
Norris was close in the last few laps,
To get DRS when Bottas also had DRS. But we saw how hard it was for the Mercedes to get past a ferrari engined car.
Norris spent most of the race over 3 seconds behind Bottas, Daniel spent most of the race 1/2 second behind Norris. Norris only caught Bottas at the end of the race.
Lando said himself that he burned up his tyres somewhat early in the race fighting Albon so struggled a bit afterwards. Daniel did indeed have the pace to keep up with Lando and perhaps could have got closer to Bottas but would have struggled to pass with the mini DRS train.

I don't think there was anything more than 11th and 12th on the cards in the sprint though. Hopefully Daniel shows the same pace later today- it's a good headache for the team to have!