Lotus F1 Team 2013

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Creative accounting and favours. You can't believe anything you see these days.

Of more interest to me is what is happening with Venezuela's currency.

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A wild guess is that Maldonados dad is a high-ranking partymember of the PSUV?
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If this money can get Romain Grosjean a car to challenge Sebastian Vettel, then I'm all for it!
The speed of Ayrton Senna.
The mind of Alain Prost.
The dedication of Michael Schumacher.
The determination of Alex Zanardi.

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a bit off topic but I just wonder, didn't Lotus set up new simulators at Enstone?, that may reduce the development parts..., anyway Grosjean showed today his potential with defending against Webber who has up to 1 sec quicker car...
Maybe Grosjean is even faster than Vettel if they would be in the same car.

Interesting Ijaz just confirmed on skysports, that the Quantum deal will be confirmed this week, and Iljaz said they will put even more money than they at first planed to... We will see

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xpensive wrote:I wonder how Maldonado is connected to PDVSA, if he gets a 30 kUSD-check in blanco to spend as he sees fit every season?
plus some "compensation" money to be transferred to williams -they had a contract going ,didn´t they ?

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Totally boneheaded move sticking Kovalinen in the car, after his dismal outing in Austin I seriously hope they give Valesecchi a chance in Brazil
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godlameroso wrote:Totally boneheaded move sticking Kovalinen in the car, after his dismal outing in Austin I seriously hope they give Valesecchi a chance in Brazil
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absolute nonesense, did you even see the race or just the results?

Kovalainen had a decent start, but for got called in fairly early for the pit stop dropping him back a bit,
then for some unknown reason without any reference they decided to pit him and replace his front wing,
and that took some serious time, unnecessarily long to be honest, and simply killed his entire race dropping him
17th place. Little to be done from there.

Only comment on kova could be made on wearing pink in his helmet. I dunno what's the reason for that?
He kinda positively impressed me in his first outing at lotus in a completely unknown team with a completely
unknown car after just having driven some practice sessions on friday in a caterham [completely different car].
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xpensive wrote:A wild guess is that Maldonados dad is a high-ranking partymember of the PSUV?
Maldonado himself was a great friend of Hugo Chavez, he even was one of the guards of honour at Chávez's funeral,
and his wife is Venezuelan journalist Gabriela Tarkanyi.

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http://edition.cnn.com/2013/10/01/sport ... venezuela/
"It's a huge responsibility that I have," Maldonado, who had the personal approval of late Venezuelan president Hugo Chavez, told CNN. "I have a complete country pushing in my back so every day we do not do very well, I have some pressure."
"If a government thinks that it can increase trade and tourism by presenting an image of itself as a technologically savvy, glamorous destination and a center of sporting excellence, then F1 is a good way to achieve this," Sylt continued.
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As well as the traditional logos prominently painted on the car's livery, Venezuela now gets a mention every time Maldonado is strapped into a car.

"I have more than many responsibilities," Maldonado explained with a half smile. "I am the only one in Venezuela who has Formula 1 on his back. It's quite hard for me to keep everyone happy."

"PDVSA and the sponsors I had in the past, and that I still have, believe in my talent," said Maldonado, who is still aware that he has to sing for his supper.

"I was the first racing driver who was racing with the colors of PDVSA, the main oil company of the country.

"In Venezuela we don't like to lose, we always approach to win."

"You know, F1 after my victory last year became a very popular sport," Maldonado explained. "We have two live TV channels so it's getting bigger and bigger -- which is why I have even more responsibility."
so now we have pastor with pressure, and we have a team he last year homed in o pole position and a win, and several front-qualifying runs, and now runs at the very back of the field. dissapointing? who wouldnt be! GP winner to backmarker.

Then Venezuelan President Chavez died following a long battle with cancer.
The death of Chavez, a self-styled" 21st Century socialist," left Venezuela in a state of flux and it arguably deprived Maldonado of his biggest supporter.

When asked how much the late president had personally helped his career, Maldonado answered: "A lot.

"It was not only my career it was the career of many racing drivers, Rodolfo Gonzalez (GP2), E.J. Viso, who is in IndyCar; many, many racing drivers."
Being backed by the state has intrinsically linked Maldonado to Venezuela in so many ways.

He is indebted to PDVSA for his position in F1 and in turn he feels he is an ambassador for Venezuela, his compatriots and the legacy of President Chavez.

When countries decide to directly invest in F1's drivers, the responsibility lies heavily on the racer's shoulders.
Even if Maldonado finds himself without an F1 drive in the future he is already determined to pay back part of his debt he believes he owes to his country through the Pastor Maldonado Foundation, a charitable organization that he set up in 2005.
Maldonado has become a political figure just as much as a f1 driver. That brings a lot of weight to his shoulders, and it would be illogical to think that would not affect his racing activities. But being a high-profile political figure, brings the
benefit that he is a 'lucrative' business 'label/brand' and therefor is able to 'get things done'. He's the image of PDVSA,
they sure aren't gonna ditch him, so he's got their backing. But like he said, if things don't go well, it effects his image
and affects the image of venezuela, which isn't good [for their and his sake].

And let's face the facts.....williams surely didn't perform anywhere good this year. And even though he's showing a real temper, doesn't mean he is wrong in what he said. There is no evidence he is speaking the truth, but there is no evidence
him lying either. The only result we see is Maldo is at the back while Bottas runs front-midfield.

Maldo will take his PDVSA money and park himself and his goldbars somewhere it'll guarantee him positive results for a longer period of time. Lotus, Force India and Sauber are the only spots left for that. Lotus seemingly is the nr.1 choice, since they perform best of all of them.

Maldo indeed seems to hold all the cards, and the driver market will depend on what he's about to do i think. Knowing Bernie, he might have a little hand in where he's gonna end up just as well.
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So Kovelainen had problems with his front wing. It isn't clear if marbles got stuck in critical areas or something structurally broke. However, pressure sensors in the wing sensed a drop of 20 df points.

Kovelainen did well. Without that issue he could have scored some points.
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Kovalainen had a KERS issue throughout the race and later he came in for the FW change because he lost a lot of downforce. It was only a case of bad luck for him.

As for the simulator, as far as I know, Lotus probably have one of the best simulators in on the grid and is a pretty recent investment in the factory (made last year or 1,5 years ago).
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It looks like lotus is unlikely to finish 3rd in the constructor, so why not just let Valsecchi have a go next weekend?

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Have to say Kova's result was a huge dissappointment, but I wouldn't rule out that it wasn't for the front wing and KERS problem. After the bad start it looked like he was stuck on the back of Rosberg who was behind Ricciardo and di Resta for the whole stint and looked a lot faster but couldn't pass. Lotus had the worst speed trap speed in qualy of the established teams. During the pitstops he passed the three of them until at some point he started dropping like a stone before changing the wing and others started passing him left and right.

We've seen how difficult it has been to switch cars mid-season even when driving for the entire season with another, but I am not yet convinced that it was just poor driving.

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Venezuela Is currently entering a state of Political turmoil. If Lotus signs Maldo they better sign him and ask for payment up front.

But PUP posted on the Silly Season thread that in Twitter. They are rumoring that Lotus has signed Perez and will announce At the Weekends GP make it official.
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http://en.espnf1.com/williams/motorspor ... MP=OTC-RSS
Did you read about that, there is a chance Maldonado won't have his PDVSA support anymore, so if that happens, I don't belive Lotus would sign him for 2014...

Now I'm realy curious who will Lotus sign for next year :D

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I dint read that article but thats interesting.
Perez is a guarantee. Slims funding Telmex and Claro Telcel Vuervo NEC

Sound like a pretty good package and Perez isn't a bad driver.
Hes no Alonso or Ham but he's shown hes as fast as Button.

So not that bad a move.
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