Marussia driver Jules Bianchi will start today's Monaco Grand Prix from the back of the grid following a gearbox change earlier today. The youngster qualified 19th during yesterday's qualifying session, but as his team discovered an issue with the gearbox and decided to change it, he receives a five place grid penalty.
As I said not penalty.
Why? He didn't do anything wrong just a nearly crash, only the media started to speculate.
The only thing is the reversing but it was not as soon as some stated here. Also, the reversing was not in investigation.
Now, Hamilton, who should have been a bit more intelligent. he was doing alright until he fall on the trap created for his main supporters. British media or mainly british commentators. And if he crash against Rosberg in future in a suspicious way his licence points will be taken as his words would be in consideration.
Juzh wrote:
I know, I just find it amusing no one tried fresh ones on their first attempt.
Pretty sure everyone did their first Q3 attempt on brand new set except Alonso. I remember thinking why do they not keep the new sets for the ultimate attempt then I remembered everyone has an extra bonus set for Q3. Both attempts were on brand new except for Alonso who didn't have two new sets available.
I wonder how much of an advantage the lead driver is after the first corner. Going from super soft to soft, wouldnt pitting first make you vulnerable? Is there any data on how far the super softs degrade and when they do, how they compare to going out on cold softs (that seem to be too hard for this track).
I wonder what the best strategy is for Lewis, if he doesnt get ahead at the start. Save tires and push later or try to stay as close and then when rosberg pits hope his tyres hold up for another banker? Would the team even be allowed to do this if it would put the first pitter at a disadvantage?
Not for nothing, Rosberg's Championship is the only thing that lends credibility to Hamilton's recent success. Otherwise, he'd just be the guy who's had the best car. — bhall II #Team44 supporter
Rosberg lost a lot of fans today including myself. He made a mistake and he knew that his time would come under attack from Lewis. So he decides to park it. Its was the strangest entrance for that corner he never took that line, he was in the middle of the track before he locked-up he didn't make an attempt to position his car on the left-hand side of the track. Also the shaking of the steering wheel, just made me juggle. And why haven't he been punished for reversing on to the track? Also why did he put it in reverse his quali lap was over there no time anymore to pit and have another go... Also if you watch the on-board he try's really hard to lock up the front tire the make it more obvious, but the lock occurs way to late. It all looks unnatural from my perspective.But Karma is a bitch, right? Lets see what the day of tomorrow brings.
He could have made that corner, but he knew that the other would have improved on their time. Maybe the mistake is genuine but how he dealt with it was unsportsmanlike. He should have parked it deeper or just carry on and get out of the way of his competitors.
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Irvine:"If you don't have a good car you can't win it, unless you are Michael or Senna. Lots of guys won in Adrian Newey's cars, big deal. Adrian is the real genius out there, there is Senna, there is Michael and there is Newey.They were the three great talents."
I can't wait to see the start of this race. It seems things are heating up badly in the Mercedes garage.
I think Nico made an honest mistake with the lock-up. It's hard to judge based on just visual sawing of the steering wheel. These guys are strapped tight to their cars and would feel minute car movements before they are visually apparent. The telemetry would show that, and it seems that's what exonerated him from a penalty.
We'll get two very fired-up front-runners tomorrow. That's a good thing for all of us. Hopefully this fight lasts all the way to the end of the season.
Phil wrote:I wonder how much of an advantage the lead driver is after the first corner. Going from super soft to soft, wouldnt pitting first make you vulnerable? Is there any data on how far the super softs degrade and when they do, how they compare to going out on cold softs (that seem to be too hard for this track).
I wonder what the best strategy is for Lewis, if he doesnt get ahead at the start. Save tires and push later or try to stay as close and then when rosberg pits hope his tyres hold up for another banker? Would the team even be allowed to do this if it would put the first pitter at a disadvantage?
Best strategy is to pass on the first lap. The big problem is when pit stops are done under SC. With a staggered pit stop the second driver will loose a heap of places. You don't want to take that risk on a track like Monaco.
And in Monaco the second driver has a pretty decent chance in the first corner. Especially if Rosberg repeats his starting performance of the past few races.
Imagine if Nico leads from the start and Merc give Lewis the same strategy that Nico had in Bahrain and Spain... and Lewis overtakes and beats him at the end, at Monaco of all places. Nico would be crushed.
Waywardism wrote:Imagine if Nico leads from the start and Merc give Lewis the same strategy that Nico had in Bahrain and Spain... and Lewis overtakes and beats him at the end, at Monaco of all places. Nico would be crushed.
Shame its set to be a one stopper, so not chance of anything like that.
I wish Hamilton and Rosberg could fight it out in a straight race tomorrow rather than via today's dueling media quotes. Don't think it will happen, precisely for the reason pole is so important at Monaco-- no overtaking possible.
Rosberg's starts this year have not actually been bad, he's just been starting on the dusty side of the track (due to Hamilton always taking pole). In this race, most likely scenario after first corner is Rosberg-Ricciardo-Hamilton. This means Hamilton will spend most of the race on a funky pit-stop strategy to eventually get around Ricciardo in the pits. Then Hamilton will be behind Rosberg late in the race when the track is full of marbles, no real chance for even a banzai move.
Redragon wrote:As I said not penalty.
Why? He didn't do anything wrong just a nearly crash, only the media started to speculate.
The only thing is the reversing but it was not as soon as some stated here. Also, the reversing was not in investigation.
Now, Hamilton, who should have been a bit more intelligent. he was doing alright until he fall on the trap created for his main supporters. British media or mainly british commentators. And if he crash against Rosberg in future in a suspicious way his licence points will be taken as his words would be in consideration.
if the crash and the reversing was not in investigation, what was the purpose of this ? Maybe the longer yellow flag itself !
Just amazing to see how a simple Lewis response referencing to Senna as the question can cost him and his mind to be judged by everyone (stupid, intelligent, ...) !
Yes maybe the medias started to speculated earlier, but if you were onboard with Nico in this lap expecting him to improve and saw his touch in this corner, perhaps you could know why... the video on sky comparing his approach at the same Mirabeau corner at pole lap was good point.
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“And suddenly I realized that I was no longer driving the car consciously. I was driving it by a kind of instinct, only I was in a different dimension.”
― Ayrton Senna
Waywardism wrote:Imagine if Nico leads from the start and Merc give Lewis the same strategy that Nico had in Bahrain and Spain... and Lewis overtakes and beats him at the end, at Monaco of all places. Nico would be crushed.
Can't happen as it'll be a one stop strategy. Only question is when each car pits and who can turn the tyres on more quickly.
Phil wrote:I wonder how much of an advantage the lead driver is after the first corner. Going from super soft to soft, wouldnt pitting first make you vulnerable? Is there any data on how far the super softs degrade and when they do, how they compare to going out on cold softs (that seem to be too hard for this track).
I wonder what the best strategy is for Lewis, if he doesnt get ahead at the start. Save tires and push later or try to stay as close and then when rosberg pits hope his tyres hold up for another banker? Would the team even be allowed to do this if it would put the first pitter at a disadvantage?
Best strategy is to pass on the first lap. The big problem is when pit stops are done under SC. With a staggered pit stop the second driver will loose a heap of places. You don't want to take that risk on a track like Monaco.
And in Monaco the second driver has a pretty decent chance in the first corner. Especially if Rosberg repeats his starting performance of the past few races.
On the other hand, the lead driver takes a risk by pitting first at Monaco – any safety car in between their pit stop and the following driver's pit stop cedes the lead to the second placed driver.
