Red Bull RB7 Renault

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scarbs wrote: look closely at SLCs comments, they are bang on. SLC is an aerodynamicist working in industry and I have had his comments pointed out to me by one of the Renault designers, who actually worked on the FEE. Obviously my insider cant tell me the exact details of the system, so he's pointed me to these comments. have a read and consider you're opinion.
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Looks like they have had a look at the renault FW!

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Well would rather say the Virgin front wing, End plate connection is the same, the wing profiles are pretty much similair too.
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Looks like Red Bull have borrowed an idea from Williams, in the form of the truncated rear body structure ..
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Was viewing Red Bull's new front wing a bit further just now after glancing at it briefly earlier. At first I thought it was a two element design, but then I noticed at the bottom there was a small amount sticking out there as the third element and then I saw a different photo which was very clear. Neat stuff. It does not look terribly different from what they had before as I suspected. Boy they are quick though.

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http://www.formula1.com/gallery/testing/2011/608.html
several pictures on there that show the RB7 diffuser.
could red bull be bending the rules on the starter hole and using it to create a kind of DDD, they have a newly opened hole below the crash structure..
i cant think of any other reason why they'd waste that "volume" within the diffuser centre section
im no expert on anythin to do with F1 so please forgive if im being retarded lol

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Moved posts about bumps and who said what to the team thread.
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Mchamilton wrote:http://www.formula1.com/gallery/testing/2011/608.html
several pictures on there that show the RB7 diffuser.
could red bull be bending the rules on the starter hole and using it to create a kind of DDD, they have a newly opened hole below the crash structure..
i cant think of any other reason why they'd waste that "volume" within the diffuser centre section
im no expert on anythin to do with F1 so please forgive if im being retarded lol
The thing I noticed about the diffuser pics is how smooth the exhaust flow is around the outer strakes. Really to evaluate it properly have to enlarge a bit and pump the bright and contrast to expose it. It impressed me though ..

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scarbs wrote:
segedunum wrote:
ringo wrote:The Renault exhaust was a perfect example. All over the internet it's reported that it's blowing under the floor. When in reality it isn't.
I think one of the few things we established in that exhaust thread was that blowing under the floor would just be pointless.
I dont want to join in just spoiling Ringos comment, but if you re-read the frotn exit exhaust thread, and look closely at SLCs comments, they are bang on. SLC is an aerodynamicist working in industry and I have had his comments pointed out to me by one of the Renault designers, who actually worked on the FEE. Obviously my insider cant tell me the exact details of the system, so he's pointed me to these comments. have a read and consider you're opinion.
I guess we'll have to wait and see when an engine blows or sputters oil. :mrgreen:
I can get the egg in my face and eat the crow when the time comes.
What would be interesting, is if in a future interview, you mention the trolls on F1 technical :lol: ( not by name though :mrgreen: ) and pose questions with the contrasting ideas. Give them a change to be slammed or lauded.
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BreezyRacer wrote:
Mchamilton wrote:http://www.formula1.com/gallery/testing/2011/608.html
several pictures on there that show the RB7 diffuser.
could red bull be bending the rules on the starter hole and using it to create a kind of DDD, they have a newly opened hole below the crash structure..
i cant think of any other reason why they'd waste that "volume" within the diffuser centre section
im no expert on anythin to do with F1 so please forgive if im being retarded lol
The thing I noticed about the diffuser pics is how smooth the exhaust flow is around the outer strakes. Really to evaluate it properly have to enlarge a bit and pump the bright and contrast to expose it. It impressed me though ..
thermal coating in the diffuser mouth? looks coated in light grey. and extended shark fin as well.
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ringo wrote:thermal coating in the diffuser mouth? looks coated in light grey. and extended shark fin as well.
Yes, that's what I was referring to. It looked like exhaust reside to me with subtle differences in the flow areas.

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The coating in the diffuser is probably this new product from Zircotech...

quote "Smooth, heat-resistant ceramic minimises turbulence in 2011 ‘blown’ exhaust diffuser applications
New smooth surface ceramic minimises airflow disruption for retaining exhaust gas speed through composite structures. Requirement to maintain high speeds to regain losses with banned double diffuser"


www.zircotec.com

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