Ferrari F2012

[therealjustin]

Perhaps some sort of electromagnetic system...

[tpe]

2 threads. Probably we'll see faster pits stops.

If you look closer (right and top of the 1st visible thread), you will see the starting point of the third thread.

[jaba.hut]

It is like 2 1/2 threads.

[Robbobnob]

They will have redesigned their diffuser as the car is now running much less rake than they had previously estimated and tested during pre season testing. Obviously with their initial exhaust solutions not working their diffuser efficiency would have taken a hit.

The question I have is with their new Macca inspired solution will they be able to run more rake, or does the airflow interact in a completely different way and therefore requires an even flatter setup facilitating the new diffuser?

[alogoc]

i wonder if Ferrari is using Brembo brakes in Montreal!? In the past Fernando didnt use them on his car he used Carbon Industrial brakes!
when he was in Mclaren they used Carbon Industrial and wanted Hitch brakes from Renault days!?

[FakeAlonso]

2 threads. Probably we'll see faster

If you look closer (right and top of the 1st visible thread), you will see the starting point of the third thread.

2 max 2-1/2

[elFranZ]

I'm a little perplexed: last season we learned that sealing the diffuser with exhausts' hot air allowed teams to run a consistent rake. Now take F2012, in Jerez the car looked much more raked than now, while the overall exaust geometry isn't that different, imho.
Call it a stupid reasoning, but to me they completely abandoned the idea of seling the diffuser.
So, my stupid question is: where are they getting their regained downforce?

[Crucial_Xtreme]

I'm a little perplexed: last season we learned that sealing the diffuser with exhausts' hot air allowed teams to run a consistent rake. Now take F2012, in Jerez the car looked much more raked than now, while the overall exaust geometry isn't that different, imho.
Call it a stupid reasoning, but to me they completely abandoned the idea of seling the diffuser.
So, my stupid question is: where are they getting their regained downforce?

That's the whole idea of the new exhaust, to get the exhaust gasses to the floor

[Crucial_Xtreme]

Fernando using the new brake ducts

[bhall]

I'm a little perplexed: last season we learned that sealing the diffuser with exhausts' hot air allowed teams to run a consistent rake. Now take F2012, in Jerez the car looked much more raked than now, while the overall exaust geometry isn't that different, imho.
Call it a stupid reasoning, but to me they completely abandoned the idea of seling the diffuser.
So, my stupid question is: where are they getting their regained downforce?

I think Ferrari, along with other teams, have discovered that the diminished effects of the exhaust plume on diffuser performance is simply not enough to do with them what they've done in the past. For whatever reason, this lesson was lost on them during the F2012's initial design phase, probably because it's next to impossible to meaningfully simulate exhaust in both the wind tunnel and in CFD.

That means the F2012 has been, and will likely always be, a compromised concept.

It's a damn shame, too. I'd love to see what kind of tricks the team had up its sleeve had they been able to continue with the car's original development strategy, the one they were so confident would work that they didn't even bother to make a plan-B. Considering the team's staggering improvement of the car over the course of a mere six races, I imagine the drawing board-F2012 was a goddamn sexual Tyrannosaurus, just like me.

(I recently watched Predator.)

[Teechnical]

The new exhaust, definitely a 0.2-0.4 seconds speed boost.

[Agerasia]

The new exhaust, definitely a 0.2-0.4 seconds speed boost.

I don't think an exhaust is worth that much anymore. It's probably due to the fact they are now concentrating in other areas as well , like other teams they no longer have a "tunnel vision" on exhausts.

[Crucial_Xtreme]

The new exhaust, definitely a 0.2-0.4 seconds speed boost.

+1 I definitely agree this new exhaust has provided a gain. This team has developed so far this season better than any other team.

[marcush.]

these brake ducts are something ....
and sure worth a lot in terms of speed and lap time if they don´t overheat the brakes..

[shelly]

yes thay have gone the route renault pionereed and pushed it to the limit as williams has. Stange that they have chosen to dbut it in the most brake demanding track of the year (even if of course it is also one of the most rewarding for reduction in drag)