Ferrari F2012

[Ratatouille]

Hmm, could it be that Ferrari's tyre degradation has something to do with the new exhaust configuration?

Before, Ferrari seemed to have better degradation than Red Bull and much much better than Mclaren, and somewhere in the middle between Sauber. Today it seemed they had just 2-3 laps better tyre management than their direct competitors and much worse compared to the Sauber.

Could it be the exhaust plume acting on the tyres?

[timbo]

Hmm, could it be that Ferrari's tyre degradation has something to do with the new exhaust configuration?

Before, Ferrari seemed to have better degradation than Red Bull and much much better than Mclaren, and somewhere in the middle between Sauber. Today it seemed they had just 2-3 laps better tyre management than their direct competitors and much worse compared to the Sauber.

Could it be the exhaust plume acting on the tyres?

It is logical and pretty possible, and the key thing can be not the plume acting on the tyre, but more downforce and higher-g's in combined turning/accelerating.
But one race is not enough to make a conclusion, there was clear miscalculation on the strategy on their part.

[PABLOEING]

¿Someone can say the future updates in Ferrari for Valencia?

[alogoc]

¿Someone can say the future updates in Ferrari for Valencia?

Bridgstone tires colored in Pirelli markings!

[raymondu999]

Given that their latest exhaust iteration is fairly new - I'd bet on having several floor updates or exhaust updates to better direct the flow and refine the direction of the exhaust flow.

[amouzouris]

also macca-like or sauber-like flow conditioners....on the leading edge of the sidepods

[TheGkbrk]

I hope for some front wing development.

[Teechnical]

Yeah they could make changes to the FW endplate.

[Hail22]

http://www.autoweek.com/article/20120611/f1/120619968

Stefano Domenicali eludes to "Updates" which is several or more, my guess as Valencia is a aero-dependant circuit with high speed corners which would result in a new FW, New RW, Exhaust tune from the Canada spec? New floor, and brake ducts?

[HIEQS]

I believe given the limited time they had to set up the car compared to the other team ferrari did a brilliant job. Shame they didn't adapt to the situation and change their strategy accordingly. I think in the next coming races ferrari will understand this new exhaust better and will be able to adjust and set up the car to better use the tyre and be as fast as possible. Looking at Grosjean, exhaust blowing away from the tyres, in the race he was pretty fast although he had old tyres on... he did a similar strategy to alonso and nearly won the race.... so i guess their are lesson to be learnt here... Alonso is mighty at valencia, let's see what ferrari can do with updates there...

[raymondu999]

Yes - setup will be an area where they can fine tune further.

Alonso mighty at Valencia... hmm... I'm not so sure. His only good result really came last year at Valencia, and this despite Valencia being very similar to Singapore in track layout - which is a circuit he loves.

[Teechnical]

Can anyone now suggest an area where the car needs improvement, or refining.

[Crucial_Xtreme]

Can anyone now suggest an area where the car needs improvement, or refining.

Aerodynamics, aerodynamics, aerodynamics.

Seriously. I don't think there's necessarily one particular spot that needs more focus than others, but just refining the entire package. From FW to side pods, coke bottle area, diffuser, RW. It seems the aerodynamic efficiency of the F2012 while much better than before is still behind just a bit of some of the others. I'm sure Fry & Co have a good development path to follow.

[.poz]

Can anyone now suggest an area where the car needs improvement, or refining.

Getting equal or more downforce with less drag and fully understand how those tyres works. But for the second one i think they need a crystal ball more than improvements on the car.

Seriously, the first team who is able to get predictable performance out of those tyres has good chance to win the title.

[swarren7]

Can anyone now suggest an area where the car needs improvement, or refining.

Getting equal or more downforce with less drag and fully understand how those tyres works. But for the second one i think they need a crystal ball more than improvements on the car.

Seriously, the first team who is able to get predictable performance out of those tyres has good chance to win the title.

I don't think it's just getting predictable performance out of the tyres. Look at Lotus, they get performance out of the tires each race but not in qualifying. I think it's the first team to get predictable performance from the tyres during both qualfying and the race that will win the championship.