Scuderia Ferrari 2012

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banibhusan wrote:What I think is, they need to gain at least 6 tenths or so by Spain and the performance of the car should be consistent at every track.

Right now, the situation is a bit unpredictable. Initially everyone thought McLaren will be the fastest car everywhere, but they are clearly not. Merc were superior in China, RBR and Lotus were superior in Bahrain. My point is the updated Ferrari should be consistent in its performance, a fast car fundamentally everywhere.
I think what is becoming apparent is that tyre usage supersedes everything in terms of performance - "switching the tyres on" has been the key to all the winners we've had so far.

One would hope that, having signed Hamashima, Ferrari would have some good insight in this area, so hopefully their updates will incorporate much of his feedback.

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to be fair, tyre wear has not been as bad as we first thought during testing, and there is certainly no problem in switching the hard compound on anymore.

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Domenicali:

"Our technicians are working day and night to give our pilots a car much more competitive"

"Now we expect the important days in which the primary objective will be to push hard on the development of the car: next week we have three days of testing at Mugello but not necessarily all of the updates planned for Barcelona will be seen in that 'occasion. We must try to use every minute to increase the performance of the F2012. "


It is not just the short term the focus of efforts of the Scuderia in recent weeks, as confirmed Domenicali: "We are intensifying the process of change in the method of work in all areas of activity and at the same time, we're focused in areas where we are lacking, as in aerodynamics. It 'a long-range work that President Montezemolo is following in person and it is vital for the future of Scuderia: Formula 1 has changed so much over the years and we were not always attached to the train of change. On this front we have to shift gears. "

http://www.ferrari.com/Italian/Formula1 ... ropee.aspx

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amouzouris wrote:
u might be right mate!! i thought that that was just a quick fix they tried to do when they saw the mclaren but u might be right...anyway..we are just speculating here...lets hope the mugello and spain updates work...im aching to see ferrari do well again...and the avatar we both have to win the WDC..im very hopefull i know!!
Yeah I have no idea, but I think maybe the tried from the beginning. What's interesting is that the solution was similar to McLaren. The only problem was it was too close to the rear tyre. They said back in March they are continuing to develop it. Of course things change. Which ever way they go I just hope it works and they sort the other issues so the car can be truly competitive.

alogoc
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it seems F2012 is seriously weakened compared to rivals whit current exhaust and if they get it to work it could unleash other set-up possibility like softer suspensions for better traction!

also omnicorse says Ferrari needs to further stiffen chassis around front suspension stop car from unexpectedly shifting balance/downforce from rear to front and opposite
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As I said once before, if they get the exhaust right everything will click into place... rear ride height, wider window for setup tweaks, everything...
IF they get it right... [-o<
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Shifting gears ain't enough, when the whole gearbox is --- and only has 6 gears, not 7 like everyone else.
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Goran2812 wrote:As I said once before, if they get the exhaust right everything will click into place... rear ride height, wider window for setup tweaks, everything...
IF they get it right... [-o<
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I just wonder how Ferrari could not figure out from the developing time that they were going to a wrong direction ???
and this is not the first time...from 2009 till now they have failed to deliver a car that is competitive from the start of the season....each and every time they were outpaced by DDD or EBD or Exhaust or DDRS.......

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What cannot and should not be underestimated is if Alonso is given a car within .4-.5 tenths or better he will smell blood and he will have the opportunity to become an immortal in the Ferrari driver gods hall. He will have lifted a team on his own, which everyone gave up on, and bring it to win the WDC. I know, long shot, but you cannot underestimate how deep Alonso will draw to become one with the Force with such a unique opportunity in his career.
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sunny1304 wrote:I just wonder how Ferrari could not figure out from the developing time that they were going to a wrong direction ???
and this is not the first time...from 2009 till now they have failed to deliver a car that is competitive from the start of the season....each and every time they were outpaced by DDD or EBD or Exhaust or DDRS.......
I think with just how bad the car is now, this situation is a bit unique. From all I've read here, if they get the aero right, the car will come alive and really find pace. I think their chance for success is better than average.
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alogoc
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could it be that a part of Ferrari traction problems lies in lac of experience whit rear pull-rod compared to RB,McM,Lotus.....?

how was RB5 in 2009 whit traction?
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There was nothing special with low speed traction for the 2009 Red Bull. It was good on medium/high speed traction; but that's mostly a function of downforce. Traction wasn't their strong point anyway. Though it improved towards the RB6 - so possibly
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Hey guys! I'm actually new here, and though I do get basic principles of Formula One car structure and design, can someone kindly help me understand what exactly is the problem with the F2012's exhausts?
Thank you :)
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overheats rear tyres,that is just one problem