2022 Spanish Grand Prix - Catalunya, May 20 - 22

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PlatinumZealot wrote:
22 May 2022, 18:41
fritticaldi wrote:
22 May 2022, 18:36
Ferrari must terminate Sainz . The Spaniard never makes a good start and makes embarrassing mistakes. He is under-performing badly
He needs to calm down and just drive the damned car. I have a feeling he listening to thw wrong advice behind the scenes. Someone is telling him to push to be number 1 this year when it just aint gonna happen. The car is a winner so wins will come. Could have been there behind Charlesbif he didnt fluff the start
He doesn't have the same race pace as that of Leclerc and Verstappen. Even if he qualifies ahead, he would fall behind. He was sleeping in the race today when drivers around him were driving heart out and makig up places. He is not in the same league and I am sure he isn't willing to do the No. 2 job. So he is caught in that situation.

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ispano6 wrote:
22 May 2022, 18:37
etusch wrote:
22 May 2022, 16:49
Tvetovnato wrote:
22 May 2022, 16:43
Mindblowing drive by Hamilton.
a half good race and all holy ham fans are appeared suddenly :lol:
I like most Toto's face when Sainz overtake Ham.
Apparently they open up the engine and says we are back. By the way, for showing Ham's mentality; he would withdraw from race to save engine for monaco if team accept his offer.
Amen.

Great result for RedBull to lead both championships! Sergio can get his wins now that Max has the lead, of course as long as Max can keep his championship lead. It's only natural RedBull have Max defend his championship, considering all those who are in denial of last year's triumph. If Max didn't get held up by George there probably was a larger gap to be had, plus Max was on the softs with a heavier car compared to the rest on their last stint in lighter cars. Lewis again exploiting track limits to make his gains but a keen eye was watching, though he himself wasn't even aware of his offenses. It's about time Leclerc suffered a DNF, lucky for RedBull but we'll take it! For a track that suited Ferrari, the result was better than expected. Overall very happy with this weekend!
After 2 dnf which are caused WCC, WDC lead were almost equalised. Getting on top is good. But in fact race was not good to watch compared to previous ones.
Ferrari are already at second PU and had issue with them (one of them ). Merc also at second PU and it looks like they demand too much from PU for that race pace. I think they will change PU next race or other race so Merc will be their 3d PU. From reliability point of view, at least engine wise redbull are now in a good shape.
I don't want to forget Tsunoda. Like Perez he also looks like he liked this new car. He is doing good job.

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silver wrote:
22 May 2022, 18:45
PlatinumZealot wrote:
22 May 2022, 18:41
fritticaldi wrote:
22 May 2022, 18:36
Ferrari must terminate Sainz . The Spaniard never makes a good start and makes embarrassing mistakes. He is under-performing badly
He needs to calm down and just drive the damned car. I have a feeling he listening to thw wrong advice behind the scenes. Someone is telling him to push to be number 1 this year when it just aint gonna happen. The car is a winner so wins will come. Could have been there behind Charlesbif he didnt fluff the start
He doesn't have the same race pace as that of Leclerc and Verstappen. Even if he qualifies ahead, he would fall behind. He was sleeping in the race today when drivers around him were driving heart out and makig up places. He is not in the same league and I am sure he isn't willing to do the No. 2 job. So he is caught in that situation.
I think he damaged the car in the gravel today, Verstappen didn't. That's some luck for Verstappen that Sainz didn't have, assuming both ended up with that gust of wind and it was inevitable.

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I thought Sainz was adaptable after coming into the team last year and getting on top of things quickly.
He is failing to adapt to this car. Or he is simply driving too frantically trying to win a championahip that he cannot win.
He needs to take baby steps. Try to have a clean weekend and do your best. Ignore Charles. Just drive happily as Barichello advised Massa.
Sainz is the only one in the top 4 without a win to his name. That should be his main focus. Clean weekend, finish lap 1 in P2 at least and drive like how he drove last year.

You are not as good as Leclerc Sainz. Stop making excuses as to why your lap times are slower than Leclerc's and just do your best!
For Sure!!

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dialtone wrote:
22 May 2022, 18:48
silver wrote:
22 May 2022, 18:45
PlatinumZealot wrote:
22 May 2022, 18:41


He needs to calm down and just drive the damned car. I have a feeling he listening to thw wrong advice behind the scenes. Someone is telling him to push to be number 1 this year when it just aint gonna happen. The car is a winner so wins will come. Could have been there behind Charlesbif he didnt fluff the start
He doesn't have the same race pace as that of Leclerc and Verstappen. Even if he qualifies ahead, he would fall behind. He was sleeping in the race today when drivers around him were driving heart out and makig up places. He is not in the same league and I am sure he isn't willing to do the No. 2 job. So he is caught in that situation.
I think he damaged the car in the gravel today, Verstappen didn't. That's some luck for Verstappen that Sainz didn't have, assuming both ended up with that gust of wind and it was inevitable.
Did he? I didn't hear anywhere in the race commentary.

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Sainz is useless. Ferrari should give a test to Nyck de Vries (Mercedes is too blind to notice his talent) or Oscar Piastri.

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PlatinumZealot wrote:
22 May 2022, 18:41
Someone is telling him to push to be number 1 this year when it just aint gonna happen.
Carlos Snr? Carlos Snr had a few run-ins with McRae and others over number one status and team orders over the years IIRC.

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SchuMassa wrote:
22 May 2022, 18:44
The people who bashed me two weeks ago when I said Leclerc keeps spanking Sainz are silent now. :)
but you know, about being fierce is good for a racing driver. I think he should been at podium this race.

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Enjoyed this race. It’s difficult to overtake on this track so Max did well with a broken DRS.
Lewis was in the same situation last year in Hungary with Fernando but that Alpine was too slow to defend.
I don’t see in any way Max was manhandled by George when you look at the track layout and temperature.
Checo could overtake on fresh tyres but in his first stint he was stuck behind George too.
Smart and ruthless move by Redbull to favour their faster driver. This is how you win and fight for the championship.
Sad that Sainz damaged his car, probably because of his extra spin in gravel to straighten the car.
The cheapest sort of pride is national pride, every miserable fool who has nothing at all of which he can be proud adopts, as a last resource, pride in the nation to which he belongs; thus reimbursing himself for his own inferiority.

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Bit of nonsense going here that drivers should be fired. And then who will replace them ? So half of the field should be fired because their teammate is doing a better job with the car?

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etusch wrote:
22 May 2022, 19:13
We know it hurts that Hamilton nonetheless put in the best performance of all in the race together with Leclerc. But you will get over it I’m sure =D>

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fritticaldi wrote:
22 May 2022, 18:49
Sainz is useless. Ferrari should give a test to Nyck de Vries (Mercedes is too blind to notice his talent) or Oscar Piastri.
so by your logic merc should just dump ham and hire a rookie to replace him...... glad youre not working at any capacity with the team...

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Tvetovnato wrote:
22 May 2022, 19:21
etusch wrote:
22 May 2022, 19:13
We know it hurts that Hamilton nonetheless put in the best performance of all in the race together with Leclerc. But you will get over it I’m sure =D>
ill bet that spa 2014 flashed in his mind ..... and he had legit cause for those...

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Alright people,

Usually I would give a rousing speech about how the stupidity, bickering, and irrational nonsense has to end.
However, I noted people already did that today. So I'd instead echo those posts:

lh13 wrote:
22 May 2022, 17:34
So anyone who doesn't appreciate Hamilton is a max fan? By similar logic you're a Max hater (since you're a Hamilton fan) so you're no different and in no position to lecture others.
Poleman wrote:
22 May 2022, 17:17

Some of topic stuff
The amount of toxicity in some posts is really sickening.You cant even give the man a break even when he is not relevant in a race!The blind hate for Hamilton from a bunch of people is astonishing.Get a life and lay off the hate and even though Lewis has nothing to prove to you,he already has with his carrer and you probably sulk every night reading the stats in his Wikipedia page.
I joined in 2010 and its the first time ive seen such a toxic childish and provocative posts.Had you lot being there back then you would probably have seen the door by now.
GrizzleBoy wrote:
22 May 2022, 17:57
There must be some way for us to have race threads that don't devolve into this BS every single time......

It wasn't like this before 2021.
maxxer wrote:
22 May 2022, 18:55
Bit of nonsense going here that drivers should be fired. And then who will replace them ? So half of the field should be fired because their teammate is doing a better job with the car?
I'd like to give an applause to these people for bringing up the courage to criticize the toxic behavior that is often times portrayed =D> .

Most around in this topic have been acting actually quite well. Sure, sometimes things are worded a bit harsher than I would have liked, but at least it is within bounds. However, there are always a small group of people out there to ruin it for everyone. Those people are not around here to contribute. As mentioned above, they only are here to spout out hate. Those select people are just the same as soccer hooligans. Not in for the match, but in for the hate.

Unfortunately, just like with soccer it is difficult to keep them out of our little stadium here. We try to, and we plea to report those who do wrong. With that, I would also like to thank the people who used the report button. There were too many to thank them individually over PM, but know we do read the reports and we do act on them.
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