Ferrari F2012

[Redragon]

What it is this?
[img]http://jorgelizalde.co.uk/ferrrari ... .jpg[/img]

I don't see it so clear on redbull or mclaren

http://twitpic.com/8gygil

[TheRMVR]

I've lightened the shadows and increased the midtone contrast (not to much avail unfortunately) but have attempted to highlight where I can see the pull-rod my sandwiching it between two yellow lines.

Hope this helps



Edit: Should also help explain why its so hard to see at first, as the angle is just so, that it sits almost perfectly in-line with the lower edge of the nosecose/monocoque. Being the same colour it blends in nicely...or not so nicely depending on how you look at it

Thanks, I can see it now. Still not on this picture though but I believe it's there.

[Spencifer_Murphy]

I meant the first picture of the page. You can't see it there, it might be hidden but with that big hole there I thought they might have removed it. I know it would be weird to run a car without, hence my remark.

Ah I see!, Yes looking at that pic you can't see it at all. But if it is where I think it is, I think in the first picture it is hidden by the upper wishbone. (angles again lol)

[amouzouris]

here:

i outlined the arms with yellow and the pullrod with red

[ESPImperium]

I have a feeling that all teams will settle on the same exhaust posistion next to the upper wishbone that enters the exhaust box.

However, there is speculation that the exhaust rules may be changed futher as to prevent teams blowing the gasses internally again bia a body work inlet for say a wishbone. I recon that Charlie isnt happy at all the top three teams and their exhaust layout. I think that there will be a rule clarification for the first European race in order to give the teams Mugello to test a new exhaust posistion.

I feel the FIA is clamping down hard on this grey area.

[Robbobnob]

Newey is already saying he believes the Ferrari & McLaren exhaust solutions will cause controversy.


Thanks Owen for the larger pic

I think that is because there was suppose to some sort of agreement or understanding between the teams not to pursuit exploiting the exhaust for aero benefit in light of the new rulings.

Similar to the understanding that stalling of the rear-wing wouldn't be investigated either... then Mclaren invented the f-duct...

[TheRMVR]

here:

i outlined the arms with yellow and the pullrod with red

Thanks, thats very clear. If you take a look at the launch photo's that metal hole was filled with a suspension arm, right in the middle between the arms. Can this mean they have different holes in the chassis to try out different suspension lay-outs?

[Redragon]

Also I am seeing this on this picture. A second exhauts from the radiators and some holes recapturing this hot air to direct on the central back or I am just crazy

[img]http://jorgelizalde.co.uk/ferrrari ... .jpg[/img]

original picture

[img]http://jorgelizalde.co.uk/ferrrari ... .jpg[/img]

[Crucial_Xtreme]

Here is a good look at the front pull rod suspension. Right click>view image

[Redragon]

Here is a good look at the front pull rod suspension. Right click>view image

The face of Massa says it all. Not happy with the camera on that point of view.

[Lorenzo_Bandini]

Ted Kravitz
@tedkravitz Ted Kravitz
Ferrari's pullrod front suspension is impressive, they confirm had to strengthen upright to handle the increased loads. Gives aero benefit.

[radosav]

What I actually find more interesting there is the camera looking at the graining/degradation on the tyres.

Looking at how it had worked before they cut away the top – I have *no* idea how they thought that would pass the regulations.

ferrari is using air-stream from sidepods to direct hot gases from exhaust, while mclaren uses those channels which mechanically redirect exhaust gases.ferrari is 'more legal' in exhaust part of the car, but that doesnt make it legal.

[beelsebob]

What I actually find more interesting there is the camera looking at the graining/degradation on the tyres.

Looking at how it had worked before they cut away the top – I have *no* idea how they thought that would pass the regulations.

ferrari is using air-stream from sidepods to direct hot gases from exhaust, while mclaren uses those channels which mechanically redirect exhaust gases.ferrari is 'more legal' in exhaust part of the car, but that doesnt make it legal.

What makes it "more legal"?

Neiter is illegal in any way, as long as they keep the exit clear of body work, as far as I see them.

[radosav]

What I actually find more interesting there is the camera looking at the graining/degradation on the tyres.

Looking at how it had worked before they cut away the top – I have *no* idea how they thought that would pass the regulations.

ferrari is using air-stream from sidepods to direct hot gases from exhaust, while mclaren uses those channels which mechanically redirect exhaust gases.ferrari is 'more legal' in exhaust part of the car, but that doesnt make it legal.

What makes it "more legal"?

Neiter is illegal in any way, as long as they keep the exit clear of body work, as far as I see them.

well, FIA's last statement was that they are against any kind of redirecting exhaust flow mechanically. i think that mclaren's exhaust position is illegal.

[Gridlock]

well, FIA's last statement was that they are against any kind of redirecting exhaust flow mechanically.

The RB8 exhaust flow is redirected by a mechanical device that moves related to speed*, if you want to be pedantic about it. So it will be interesting to see what turns up on track tomorrow.

Anyone at Jerez care to see which garage burns the midnight oil longest?

How much Red Bull is there at Red Bull?

*the upper wishbone sits right in it