Is it not basic engineering principle to throughly test everything. Bringing it out for the last session sure looks like a copy job. Looks like Adrian missed this one. Maybe he is on a downward slope? Of coarse it will be a shallow slope downward because he is soo brilliant.Adrian Newby wrote: it was a basic engineering principle....
Just a slight downward slope?Adrian Newby wrote:Red Bull have also said that in hind sight they messed up by not testing the final update sooner, indicating that they had the design done and the car ready earlier than it was shown.
mith wrote:I'm surprised no one remember, it's third time already, when Red Bull shows their final exhaust configuration on the last days of testing. There were even some funny stickers on RB6 to fool competitors, where the actual exhaust is located! I'm not trying to say, RB8's bridge exhaust (or call it however you want) is working properly or that is not, because how could I possibly know? But for one, I'm sure that this late redesign was planned way ahead and is not a sign of panic by throwing on the car random concepts copied from the competition as some suggest or the lack of ideas as suggest the others.
That's right. And I copied designs like hell when I saw something better!Adrian Newby wrote:When I went to college, it was a basic engineering principle not to freeze the design until the very last possible minute. And Adrian Newey, being a very good engineer indeed, is well-known for this. Infamous for it even, if you ask team managers!n smikle wrote: It would be crazyness for a top team like redbull to leave their final design development one month before the first race... it's obviously copied.
Brian, I am done talking to you. I would have to censor myself in ways I refuse to stoop to.hardingfv32 wrote:Just a slight downward slope?Adrian Newby wrote:Red Bull have also said that in hind sight they messed up by not testing the final update sooner, indicating that they had the design done and the car ready earlier than it was shown.
Brian
Because the DF produced form the exhaust is so much less. Theoretically it will have on/off throttle balance shifts. They'll just be smaller.King Six wrote:Question:
How are teams overcoming the 'sensitivity' if off-throttle blowing has been banned for this season?
Exhaust blowing is nothing new, it's a very old concept in F1, older than the RB6/RB7. The reason teams went to periscope exhausts was because they didn't want their aero to be sensitive to throttle, so then they came up with off-throttle blowing for 2011...
But obviously that's banned now, so with some teams having some exhaust solutions that try to be as aero-effecient as possible...how are they getting around the sensitivity?
Or the rules should say that exhaust pipe should be pointed out at the certain angle and should be long at least 10cm (from end of the body and end of the pipe)Huntresa wrote:Off topic but the exhaust, why doesnt the FIA set the rules so the exhaust ends like they do on the new indy cars, straight up in the air on the sidepod. Having them like that has to make it even for everyone, and ofc ban any from of periscope above the hole, jsut have it like its in the pic.
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