2014 Canadian Grand Prix - Montreal

[n_anirudh]

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The hellicopter cam pretty much clears Felipe.

Perez moved left for the backmarker who Massa did not see.

Do you mean Vettel?

Oh yeah...that was Vettel...wasnt it?

[Gonner]

Hello!

Anyone has footage of Button getting passed Alonso and Hulk ? I was shocked when I saw he finished fourth. I was even afraid of him being penalized for overtaking under SC or something, but it appears he passed both of them on lap 69.

Alonso said that to ESPN : "I tried to pass Hulkenberg in very strange places to try to get the overtaking done, which I managed to do but we both went offline and nearly hit the grass and then Button took the opportunity to overtake, and then Hulkenberg overtook me back on the straight and that was it."

Wonder where that happened.

[timbo]

The only reason Massa was 'far ahead of his teammate' was because Williams were toying with having Massa do a 1 stop, but ultimately felt they would stand to lose more then gain (with which I agree with), while Bottas went with 2 stops. Before Bottas' 2nd stop, Bottas was ahead of Massa by about 4.5 seconds. A couple of laps later, the Mercedes cars started experiencing problems, so eeryone gained on the leaders.

Massa lost couple of seconds on the first stop, mechanics had problems with front left, this put him in the middle of Ferrari/TR group, which didn't help his progress.

[Powerslide]

Massa wanted to have a look at Perez with a possible manoeuvre but Massa underestimated Perez's braking zone as Perez was suffering problem similar to the Mercedes-Benz, weakened MGU-K resulting in rear brake abuse. Basically he was having braking issues, brake early, miss judged by Massa and wheels touched. I can't quite see where did Perez move over to Massa's line, I don't think this is the case, its more Perez brake early, Massa moved to the left but not quickly enough thinking Perez's braking zone would be consistent. Its an accident, pure and simple. Thoroughly glad Vettel was not taken out, he was at a T-Bone angle and a flying Williams would have made a horrible impact.

[djos]

Perez's braking was utterly irrelevant, he moved off the racing line as Massa tried to dive down the inside and caused the accident - it's pretty clear cut from all the footage and clearly it was to the stewards too!

[Powerslide]

On Ricciardo, he certainly prove his worth. His win made 2014 Montreal grand Prix special an posted some exceptional laps to get ahead of Vettel and Rosberg. Rosberg looked really strong and Lewis on par but was all over Rosberg after both pitted. Think Rosberg was already starting to have problems hence his pit messege on Lewis's brake settings. That could have been the beginning of rear brake issue.

[Powerslide]

Perez's braking was utterly irrelevant, he moved off the racing line as Massa tried to dive down the inside and caused the accident - it's pretty clear cut from all the footage and clearly it was to the stewards too!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUEbC1bf2sc[/youtube] I have not seen it on this angle but now I have. It does tell a different story.

[Powerslide]

Massa was clearly the strongest at the closing stages also having the best tyre condition but the circuit's difficulty for overtaking made a win far fetched. At one point even Perez was though to have a chance but after a couple of laps failing behind Rosberg, probably with similar problems to the other Mercedes-Benz powered cars he fell off pace. Willams waking up certainly is interesting

[e30ernest]

Yeah that video leaves little doubt that Perez moved out of the racing line to the left and into Massa's path just before the braking zone. Thank you for posting it!

Edit: On the footage of Maldonado entering the pits to retire, there was damage to his left sidepod. What (or who) did he hit to cause that damage?

[Timbit]

The only reason Massa was 'far ahead of his teammate' was because Williams were toying with having Massa do a 1 stop, but ultimately felt they would stand to lose more then gain (with which I agree with), while Bottas went with 2 stops. Before Bottas' 2nd stop, Bottas was ahead of Massa by about 4.5 seconds. A couple of laps later, the Mercedes cars started experiencing problems, so eeryone gained on the leaders.

Massa lost couple of seconds on the first stop, mechanics had problems with front left, this put him in the middle of Ferrari/TR group, which didn't help his progress.

I agree. If he had a decent first stop he definitely would have come out ahead of Vergne and Raikkonen. It took Massa a lap or two to get passed Raikkonen, so if he did come out ahead he would have been on Ricciardos tail.

The knock on effect of Massa having a good first stop as opposed to what happened is that he would have come out ahead of Perez after his 2nd stop. However this is al in hindsight, but it would have been nice to not have that first stop be so darn bad.

[FW17]

Did they forget penalty points or is that only for pastor maldonado?

[djos]

Did they forget penalty points or is that only for pastor maldonado?

Perez is usually a clean driver so they prolly thought applying license points would be overly harsh.

[CHT]

Perez's move could be to uncut Vettel with late braking on the inside rather than trying to block Massa.

Massa could just be at the wrong place at the wrong time.

[timbo]

Perez's move could be to uncut Vettel with late braking on the inside rather than trying to block Massa.

Except that he started braking very early which contributed to accident.

Massa could just be at the wrong place at the wrong time.

Yeah, this one is true.

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