2014 Japanese Grand Prix - Suzuka

[johnsonwax]

Don't they compare their sector times to previous laps or something like that to check they are actually going slower?

That was my understanding as well, which is bullshit. If rain is increasing (a likely time for a crash), you're going to be slower even going flat-out, so just go flat-out. If you had to break or had a small off due to something that led to the yellow, then you're safe to go flat-out the rest of the sector because you're still going to be slower.

[johnsonwax]

Hamilton said after the race that a double yellow means slow right down and be prepared to stop. At one point Kobayashi unlapped himself because Hamilton slowed accordingly and Kobayashi didn't (at the time the commentary thought LH had a problem such was the difference.

Right, but Lewis had a 10s lead. He could afford to slow without risking losing a position. If he had a 2s lead, does anyone think he'd have slowed as much? I don't. If he slows and Nico doesn't, that's 14 points and possibly a WDC.

[Richard]

If you had to break or had a small off due to something that led to the yellow, then you're safe to go flat-out the rest of the sector because you're still going to be slower.

They look at the telemetry to see if the diver lifts in the relevant bit of the track. I recall an incident with Hamilton setting a fast sector time under yellows a few years ago but McLaren showed he'd lifted in the yellow zone.

Also actual car speed is monitored when there is a delta under SC. That's why the driver needs a delta on the screen to show if they are going too fast at that point. This was introduced because drivers part way through a sector used to rush back to the pits, they can't do that now.

[ollandos]

i find this clean fhoto from the accident .....look very hard byt helmet looks good

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[SectorOne]

Hamilton said after the race that a double yellow means slow right down and be prepared to stop. At one point Kobayashi unlapped himself because Hamilton slowed accordingly and Kobayashi didn't (at the time the commentary thought LH had a problem such was the difference.

Right, but Lewis had a 10s lead. He could afford to slow without risking losing a position.

But you can´t overtake in a yellow zone?

[ScottB]

Hamilton said after the race that a double yellow means slow right down and be prepared to stop. At one point Kobayashi unlapped himself because Hamilton slowed accordingly and Kobayashi didn't (at the time the commentary thought LH had a problem such was the difference.

Right, but Lewis had a 10s lead. He could afford to slow without risking losing a position.

But you can´t overtake in a yellow zone?

True, but if Driver 1 slowed down a lot, and Driver 2 didn't, they'd come out the yellow flag zone closer than they were before it, leading to an advantage if you don't slow down as much as might be safe to do so?

[McLobby]

That's very bad news

https://twitter.com/pitlanetalk/status/ ... 7324158976

I hope they are wrong

[Richard]

Hamilton said after the race that a double yellow means slow right down and be prepared to stop. At one point Kobayashi unlapped himself because Hamilton slowed accordingly and Kobayashi didn't (at the time the commentary thought LH had a problem such was the difference.

Right, but Lewis had a 10s lead. He could afford to slow without risking losing a position.

But you can´t overtake in a yellow zone?

I've had a look at the stewards report and the only penalty was for Maldonardo speeding in the pit lane. I wonder if Kobayashi passing under yellows was missed due to the chaos of the accident and aborted race?

[johnsonwax]

But you can´t overtake in a yellow zone?

No, but you can get within DRS range, you can get close enough to overtake on pit strategy. Drivers don't push unconditionally, there's always a gap that they're uncomfortable with and one that they're happy to maintain. 10s is up around the point that drivers feel they can afford to be conservative. 2s isn't. If they want safety they need to find a way to make drivers feel comfortable backing off even with only a 2s gap.

[ScottB]

DHL's 'Formula 1 Backstage' Facebook page seems to be using the accident to encourage people to like their page. Is it just me or is that just downright distasteful?

https://www.facebook.com/f1backstage?fref=ts

[Roman]

Hey! Long time reader, first time writer now
First of all: i hope JB will get well soon!
As for the question slowing down under yellow/SC wouldn't it be possible to mandate every driver to go only half the speed they did in the previous lap under double yellows? It is possible to track the speed every car does at a certain point on the track. This data can be sent automatically to race control (as it is already sent to the teams).
Then for example if a driver took a turn with 100 kph the previous lap (lowest speed counts) he may take it at a maximum of 50kph during double yellows. Could be automatically tracked by race control and with the proper it equipment teams could easily tell their drivers the allowed max speed. The main hardware (tracking position and speed of cars) is already there, all you need is the proper software that calculates allowed max speeds for the drivers.
Then implement harsh penalties: 0-5% speeding drive trough, 10-20% 5 or 10 grid penalty, more than 20% disqualification.
With the proper equipment speeing infractions can be seen by race control in real time and penalized right after.

[RZS10]

That's very bad news

https://twitter.com/pitlanetalk/status/ ... 7324158976

I hope they are wrong

Doesn't have to be too bad though, they might put him into an artificial coma for better recovery ... one can at least hope

[kalinka]

DHL's 'Formula 1 Backstage' Facebook page seems to be using the accident to encourage people to like their page. Is it just me or is that just downright distasteful?

Also this on their site >
"Sad day for Formula One:
Andrea de Cesaris died in a motorcycle crash
RIP Andrea"

R.I.P. This day is something evil.

[i70q7m7ghw]

Hearing reports he might be going in to a second operation to reduce bleeding.

[RZS10]

Hearing reports he might be going in to a second operation to reduce bleeding.

ofc those are all rumours but that wouldn't really shine a good light on the medical staff, would it?

i suspect one does not suddenly start bleeding in the brain somewhere, the tissue was damaged, or wasn't ... so if they'd see some bleeding NOW that would require another surgery .......

Although i'm pretty sure the best are at work and know what they are doing