So kind of like Ricciardo at Hungary last year thenME4ME wrote:Especially at Hungary were people were praising Kvyat, it bugged me because he wasn't quick at any time that weekend. He was struggling but somehow lucked into a good position.
Except that Ricciardo actually won the race by being up the front all weekend and so was able to capitalise on Mercedes screw ups.Jonnycraig wrote:So kind of like Ricciardo at Hungary last year thenME4ME wrote:Especially at Hungary were people were praising Kvyat, it bugged me because he wasn't quick at any time that weekend. He was struggling but somehow lucked into a good position.
Eh? He was out qualified by Vettel & Bottas, was jumped by Alonso and was so far off the pace in the race that when the SC came out he was able to immediately enter the pits, whilst the front runners had to do a full lap behind the safety cardjos wrote:Except that Ricciardo actually won the race by being up the front all weekend and so was able to capitalise on Mercedes screw ups.Jonnycraig wrote:So kind of like Ricciardo at Hungary last year thenME4ME wrote:Especially at Hungary were people were praising Kvyat, it bugged me because he wasn't quick at any time that weekend. He was struggling but somehow lucked into a good position.
Ricciardo led the race on 4 separate occasions (L10, 15, 39, 68) after qualifying 4th, he was also in the top 4 for most of the practice sessions so to claim he didn't deserve it based solely on qualifying 4th and having a bad start is idiotic.Jonnycraig wrote:
Eh? He was out qualified by Vettel & Bottas, was jumped by Alonso and was so far off the pace in the race that when the SC came out he was able to immediately enter the pits, whilst the front runners had to do a full lap behind the safety car![]()
The safety car came out on lap 9. When he was way off the pace and suddenly catapulted to the lead because the faster cars had already passed the pit entry when the SC was called...djos wrote:Ricciardo led the race on 4 separate occasions (L10, 15, 39, 68) after qualifying 4th, he was also in the top 4 for most of the practice sessions so to claim he didn't deserve it based solely on qualifying 4th and having a bad start is idiotic.Jonnycraig wrote:
Eh? He was out qualified by Vettel & Bottas, was jumped by Alonso and was so far off the pace in the race that when the SC came out he was able to immediately enter the pits, whilst the front runners had to do a full lap behind the safety car![]()
I know you seem to hate Ricciardo (JEV fan?) But you need to get a grip on reality!
Seriously, go watch the race, you talk like a single safety car was what won him the race, it wasn't, there was a 2nd safety car in the mid 20's and Ricciardo pitted dropping back to about 6th as a result (most of the top 10 didnt).Jonnycraig wrote: The safety car came out on lap 9. When he was way off the pace and suddenly catapulted to the lead because the faster cars had already passed the pit entry when the SC was called...![]()
Without a perfectly timed SC, he'd have finished nowhere. Just as Kvyat would've finished nowhere at Hungary this year without a huge stroke of luck.
No you go watch itdjos wrote:Seriously, go watch the race, you talk like a single safety car was what won him the race, it wasn't, there was a 2nd safety car in the mid 20's and Ricciardo pitted dropping back to about 6th as a result (most of the top 10 didnt).
Ricciardo only ended up back in the lead on lap 39 because he stopped later on lap 54 - this is why he won the race, he got his middle set of tires to out-last the leaders by a HUGE margin and then used his extremely fresh Softs to devastating effect passing both Hamilton and Alonso on-track!
That my jaded friend is all about talent!
Mercedes got their strategy wrong, that's a screw up.iotar__ wrote:No you go watch itdjos wrote:Seriously, go watch the race, you talk like a single safety car was what won him the race, it wasn't, there was a 2nd safety car in the mid 20's and Ricciardo pitted dropping back to about 6th as a result (most of the top 10 didnt).
Ricciardo only ended up back in the lead on lap 39 because he stopped later on lap 54 - this is why he won the race, he got his middle set of tires to out-last the leaders by a HUGE margin and then used his extremely fresh Softs to devastating effect passing both Hamilton and Alonso on-track!
That my jaded friend is all about talent!:
1. It weren't mostly Mercedes' screw ups but weather and safety car that made Ricciardo's win possible. No safety car and his 1st stop - no win, he finishes 4th-6th(?) no matter how well he drives.
2. Fourth in Q (Vettel 2nd) and sixth (? correct me) after start, behind Button, 6-8 s behind Alonso/Bottas/Vettel and 17 s behind Roberg before the pitstop/SC on 8-9th lap is not exactly "up the front all weekend". That's not talent either.
3. Hamilton overtake was a good one even with tyres difference the one on Alonso was a formality.
Comparisons to Kvyat Hun '15 would be warranted if there were team orders against him. Although Hungary '15 wasn't great at all Kvyat was still better than Ricciardo which says it all about both of them (Suzuka - the same).