2017 F1 general testing thread

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Re: 2017 F1 Pre-season testing February 27 - March 2/ March 7-10

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Well, Vettel did 1.21.8 yesterday on the mediums. That would be aprox. 1 second to SS time of Hamilton.

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What's going on at Renault?
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Snatch wrote:Well, Vettel did 1.21.8 yesterday on the mediums. That would be aprox. 1 second to SS time of Hamilton.
This is true. Although it's obviously on 2 diffrent days and the conditions may not be the same.

It is a fair point though.

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Indeed, different conditions, but for the sake of it we can compare times, though we don't know the fuel loads, engine mapping, wheter the driver really pushed or comitted a mistake etc.
I for one, just hope to have some real competiton.

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AnthonyG wrote:What's going on at Renault?
"Fitting new parts" apparently. Which they've been doing all morning.

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f1316 wrote: Also think it's rich for Horner to bang on about aesthetics with a great big hole in his car's nose (as scarabs pointed out).
Don't forget that RedBull didn't want the shark fin in the first place. I think they think it's more helpful to other teams than to them. Typical Horner, really.
If you are more fortunate than others, build a larger table not a taller fence.

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Anthropolyte wrote: Note that Sauber are currently changing their power unit as well.
- Red Bull had problems, Force India, Renault too. Leaving aside delusions of grandeur of McLaren supporters when they risk and reset concepts they reset other areas like reliability. Not unexpected for testing and if fixable normal.

- From Amus and Renault/Merc - 2 s between softs and mediums.

- Red Bull whining about sharkfin 'loophole'. Not really a loophole when everyone knows about and can use it (unlike flapping wings :) ). Red Bull hate those and unanimous voting required to close them.

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Restomaniac wrote:
FrukostScones wrote:
noxroxafox wrote:Meanwhile in the Merc: 1:20.983
on SuperSofts
True but even if we give Ferrari 1.5 seconds for the delta from Med to SS that still 0.5 seconds faster.
Also, what fuel load. A heavy car on SS perhaps? That's why the times are a bit academic at this stage.
If you are more fortunate than others, build a larger table not a taller fence.

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AnthonyG wrote:What's going on at Renault?
or Williams
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Restomaniac wrote:I can't help but think back to Ron Dennis in 2014.
“It is mindblowing, the engine is a piece of jewellery. They are further ahead than expected. The competiveness of the engine is without question.”
Ron knew that Ojjeh and Mumtalakat are planning to vote against him and decided to burn everything down by signing deal with Honda and bringing Alonso back. :lol:

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Restomaniac wrote:I can't help but think back to Ron Dennis in 2014.
“It is mindblowing, the engine is a piece of jewellery. They are further ahead than expected. The competiveness of the engine is without question.”
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Stroll damaged the car and there are no spare parts, oops. He should pay for them out of his own pocket. Wait a minute, he already is.

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I am late to the commenting game for this pre-season testing but so bummed about Honda/McLaren. They just can't seem to catch a break. Ugh!

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Gary Anderson wrote:I've just spent a bit of time standing by the pitlane exit where the drivers do their practice starts and you can get a good look at the cars. Of the top three teams, the Red Bull is the most basic car. There's nothing trick on there and it's all smooth surfaces so I expect there will be parts to come there. If I was writing a development list for the big teams, I would say Mercedes needs to concentrate on the bargeboard area, as although it has a sophisticated arrangement it hasn't fully exploited what is possible. For Ferrari, the focus would be on the diffuser. For Red Bull, it would be both areas.
What is possible Gary, please tell us...
Honda!

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dren wrote:
Gary Anderson wrote:I've just spent a bit of time standing by the pitlane exit where the drivers do their practice starts and you can get a good look at the cars. Of the top three teams, the Red Bull is the most basic car. There's nothing trick on there and it's all smooth surfaces so I expect there will be parts to come there. If I was writing a development list for the big teams, I would say Mercedes needs to concentrate on the bargeboard area, as although it has a sophisticated arrangement it hasn't fully exploited what is possible. For Ferrari, the focus would be on the diffuser. For Red Bull, it would be both areas.
What is possible Gary, please tell us...
I do wonder where he gets the inspiration for crap like this.

Do my eyes deceive me or is Autosport using 2016 livery in their leaderboard on live testing?