2025 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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nico5
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LurkingMostly wrote:
21 Feb 2025, 13:57
Even though the shakedown didn't have problems, the car could have a potential, specific problem.
According to this blog, an anomalous behavior of the car was noticeable during both Leclerc's and Hamilton's runs. Specifically, when the drivers pushed for pace in one specific right-hand downhill curve, the car exhibited noticeable nervousness, requiring strong and immediate countersteering corrections and resulting in time losses. The author of the posts points out that this particular kind of curve doesn't really exists on the calendar (except maybe at Spa), but he raises questions about potential mechanical issues with the suspension, or aerodynamic problems at the rear.
Lol he says negative camber causes oversteer, can't be a serious person

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This article from Giulana is extensive in going over the car's changes, but the parts that stood out to me were:
  • There was a larger focus on braking stability this year as both drivers are sensitive to this
  • The SF-25 has a stronger front than the SF-24, more suitable to what Leclerc enjoys
  • Many little aspects that are clearly evolved parts of the F1-75
https://autoracer.it/it/analisi-ferrari ... iosa-f1-75

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ScuderiaLeo wrote:
22 Feb 2025, 15:35
This article from Giulana is extensive in going over the car's changes, but the parts that stood out to me were:
  • There was a larger focus on braking stability this year as both drivers are sensitive to this
  • The SF-25 has a stronger front than the SF-24, more suitable to what Leclerc enjoys
  • Many little aspects that are clearly evolved parts of the F1-75
https://autoracer.it/it/analisi-ferrari ... iosa-f1-75
I'd wait for the first 3–4 races to understand how the car really behaves.
Very hard to say anything right now as they didn't even use proper race tyres in the shakedown.

Things to look for during test sessions:
- Performance in low/medium speed corners
- Performance over one lap
- Long runs consistency

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ScuderiaLeo
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Xyz22 wrote:
22 Feb 2025, 16:15
I'd wait for the first 3–4 races to understand how the car really behaves.
Very hard to say anything right now as they didn't even use proper race tyres in the shakedown.

Things to look for during test sessions:
- Performance in low/medium speed corners
- Performance over one lap
- Long runs consistency
FWIW, Leclerc said something very similar to the 2nd point in a post-shakedown interview, so I do trust that the car's behavior in the sim and this week aligned with what he was hoping for.

We'll see if that translates to the problem areas from last year (ex: tire warm-up).

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Xyz22 wrote:
22 Feb 2025, 16:15
ScuderiaLeo wrote:
22 Feb 2025, 15:35
This article from Giulana is extensive in going over the car's changes, but the parts that stood out to me were:
  • There was a larger focus on braking stability this year as both drivers are sensitive to this
  • The SF-25 has a stronger front than the SF-24, more suitable to what Leclerc enjoys
  • Many little aspects that are clearly evolved parts of the F1-75
https://autoracer.it/it/analisi-ferrari ... iosa-f1-75
I'd wait for the first 3–4 races to understand how the car really behaves.
Very hard to say anything right now as they didn't even use proper race tyres in the shakedown.

Things to look for during test sessions:
- Performance in low/medium speed corners
- Performance over one lap
- Long runs consistency
The thing about the shakedown was at some point during Leclerc's runs he was very clearly on low fuel with the car slammed to the ground, using DRS. It was very evidently a push run with a rather extreme RH setup. If it all went to plan, I think we can expect it in isolation to be a working well. Obviously it's all relative but in isolation, it does look like a promising start.

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scuderiabrandon wrote:
22 Feb 2025, 19:53
Xyz22 wrote:
22 Feb 2025, 16:15
ScuderiaLeo wrote:
22 Feb 2025, 15:35
This article from Giulana is extensive in going over the car's changes, but the parts that stood out to me were:
  • There was a larger focus on braking stability this year as both drivers are sensitive to this
  • The SF-25 has a stronger front than the SF-24, more suitable to what Leclerc enjoys
  • Many little aspects that are clearly evolved parts of the F1-75
https://autoracer.it/it/analisi-ferrari ... iosa-f1-75
I'd wait for the first 3–4 races to understand how the car really behaves.
Very hard to say anything right now as they didn't even use proper race tyres in the shakedown.

Things to look for during test sessions:
- Performance in low/medium speed corners
- Performance over one lap
- Long runs consistency

The thing about the shakedown was at some point during Leclerc's runs he was very clearly on low fuel with the car slammed to the ground, using DRS. It was very evidently a push run with a rather extreme RH setup. If it all went to plan, I think we can expect it in isolation to be a working well. Obviously it's all relative but in isolation, it does look like a promising start.
I remember in Bahrain during testing it was already quite clear how the SF 24 was a significant improvement over the SF 23 in race trim (not hard :D), so i hope we see similar improvements in other areas with the SF 25.

I also remember how shocked i was when i saw the SF 23 for the first time in 2023. It was absolutely awful on track.

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ScuderiaLeo wrote:
22 Feb 2025, 16:58
Xyz22 wrote:
22 Feb 2025, 16:15
I'd wait for the first 3–4 races to understand how the car really behaves.
Very hard to say anything right now as they didn't even use proper race tyres in the shakedown.

Things to look for during test sessions:
- Performance in low/medium speed corners
- Performance over one lap
- Long runs consistency
FWIW, Leclerc said something very similar to the 2nd point in a post-shakedown interview, so I do trust that the car's behavior in the sim and this week aligned with what he was hoping for.

We'll see if that translates to the problem areas from last year (ex: tire warm-up).
But the car hasn't been pushed properly yet so they wouldn't know for sure until that happens at a few different tracks. I'm sure Fiorano give some indication, but it's far from ideal when it comes to these cars.

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deadhead wrote:
22 Feb 2025, 21:41
ScuderiaLeo wrote:
22 Feb 2025, 16:58
Xyz22 wrote:
22 Feb 2025, 16:15
I'd wait for the first 3–4 races to understand how the car really behaves.
Very hard to say anything right now as they didn't even use proper race tyres in the shakedown.

Things to look for during test sessions:
- Performance in low/medium speed corners
- Performance over one lap
- Long runs consistency
FWIW, Leclerc said something very similar to the 2nd point in a post-shakedown interview, so I do trust that the car's behavior in the sim and this week aligned with what he was hoping for.

We'll see if that translates to the problem areas from last year (ex: tire warm-up).
But the car hasn't been pushed properly yet so they wouldn't know for sure until that happens at a few different tracks. I'm sure Fiorano give some indication, but it's far from ideal when it comes to these cars.
More than the track is the tyres. They can't user proper race tyres in these shakedows and are forced to use "demo" tyres. We know how sensitive the cars are to even a small change in tyres pressure, let alone completely different tyres.