2025 Mercedes-AMG | Petronas F1 Team

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Much like the SAI poonalty last race, I can see the FIA accepting the reason and that RUS backed off, but giving a reduced penalty anyway for precedence. 3 sec?

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ringo wrote:
13 Apr 2025, 19:39
zibby43 wrote:
13 Apr 2025, 19:34
If the driver pressed the radio button and the DRS opened, and then they backed off to compensate, and a penalty is still issued, that would emphasize everything that is wrong with F1.
I think he really pressed the DRS button.
He tried to catch himself while admitting the to press a button.. and just slid to saying it was the radio button.
The radio button is likely on a very simple hard wired circuit. I do not think it's on the same data protocol like the other programmable sterring wheel functions. Likewise DRS. DRS has safety implications and is likely on a dedicated circuit.
I don't think he would lie about intentionally pressing the DRS knowing he was nowhere near Oscar. He pressed the radio, regular routine, and somehow the car switched DRS on. The dash was going completely off, and The gearbox was going out the fritz as well so I think the Mercedes was definitely having a computer problem. Thankfully it didn't affect too much of all systems in the car. Bizarre how that happened.

SoulPancake13
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If George backed off after using it significantly, I'd say no penalty is warranted. His entire dash and steering wheel were going haywire.

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What did they do to Kimi? Shambolic strategy my god.

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OverheatedTurbo wrote:
13 Apr 2025, 19:59
What did they do to Kimi? Shambolic strategy my god.
It's more on how random that safety car was. They were not prepared for that.

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In 2018 Perez escaped Prison and kept his podium.

Stewards said:
“It is apparent that to move to the ‘default’ setting if the DRS system malfunctions, requires the team to convey to the driver, by radio, a series of steps to adjust various settings,” the stewards noted.

“In this case, the DRS light came on and as this was the first time the driver had experienced a default operation for the DRS, there was some misunderstanding of the procedure and the driver incorrectly activated the system manually. The system however, was only activated twice, each time for a short distance before the driver and team recognised the error.

“The stewards are satisfied that no car was overtaken through this incorrect use.”
https://www.racefans.net/2018/04/29/per ... ringement/
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Matt2725
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ringo wrote:
13 Apr 2025, 19:39
zibby43 wrote:
13 Apr 2025, 19:34
If the driver pressed the radio button and the DRS opened, and then they backed off to compensate, and a penalty is still issued, that would emphasize everything that is wrong with F1.
I think he really pressed the DRS button.
He tried to catch himself while admitting the to press a button.. and just slid to saying it was the radio button.
The radio button is likely on a very simple hard wired circuit. I do not think it's on the same data protocol like the other programmable sterring wheel functions. Likewise DRS. DRS has safety implications and is likely on a dedicated circuit.
Why would he open the DRS deliberately with no car in front? It makes no sense as there's no getting away with that.

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No penalty for Russell.

Common sense as no sporting advantage, it was activated for 37 meters and gained 0.02 seconds and gave back 0.28 at the next corner.

FIA authorised manual override in accordance with Article 22.1 due to the auto function failing (A part provided to the teams).

Auxiliary button was then used for Radio transmission but also double as DRS activation back up.

Put to bed.

Well done Russell on a great drive. And Merc for their strategy. Didnt work for Kimi but for sure the kid will have his day to shine, had some great moments out on track today.
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DECISION: No penalty for Russell. =D>

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CjC
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Yea nice to see common sense was applied for a change
Just a fan's point of view

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I missed the part in the decision where AR3-GP made the case for DSQ.

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zibby43 wrote:
13 Apr 2025, 21:08
I missed the part in the decision where AR3-GP made the case for DSQ.
:lol:
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zibby43 wrote:
13 Apr 2025, 21:08
I missed the part in the decision where AR3-GP made the case for DSQ.
He was lowkey praying for DSQ :D

SoulPancake13
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Correct decision. Russell more than gave up the advantage he gained and ultimately, it was acceptable considering the entire dash was going crazy.

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GG George. Dark Horse for WDC!
Call a spade, a spade.