Honda F1 project leader Yusuke Hasegawa has outlined a number of reasons why Honda has been struggling so badly in the beginning of the 2017 Formula One season. He confirmed that lots of problems were not discovered while running on the dynamo meter.
I remember Ross Brawn saying that when he started working at Honda the engine group and the chassis group were pretty much "at war" and that the engine side didn't know they were about 50 hp behind Ferrari, they believed the chassis was too draggy.amho wrote:Mr.wazari, could u tell us about engine power of Honda and its rivals in V8 and V10 era?
The paper of Sakurahara-San may be interesting.amho wrote:Mr.wazari, could u tell us about engine power of Honda and its rivals in V8 and V10 era?
I'm sorry but there is more information on the web than I can probably give you. I was involved in Honda's F1 engine program during the 80's. I worked on the RA163-168E engines. I had left the F1 program at about when they started working on the RA109E (V-10) to work for Toyota.amho wrote:Mr.wazari, could u tell us about engine power of Honda and its rivals in V8 and V10 era?
NooooooooWazari wrote:I had left the F1 program at about when they started working on the RA109E (V-10) to work for Toyota.
So ... something I can ask, which maybe you can answer. Isn't switching from Honda to Toyota (or vice cersa) something that is almost taboo / unheard of ? Or maybe not such a big deal ? Seems like quite a big switch in allegiance !
Yeah, but they don't any moregodlameroso wrote:Honda started by making piston rings for Toyota.
I always assumed this was like two rival football clubs from the same city (say, Man City vs Man Utd) - you pick your side and stick with it ! Obviously the world of F1 is more specialised, so it may be different in practice. Or maybe it's also not such a big deal for the road-car divisions as well. Curious to know how the culture is in Japan in such matters. No not really. People usually didn't switch companies in Japan but I was recruited by Toyota to work in their passenger car division. Kume-san was leaving as president from Honda and I was ready for a change to leave racing. If I was going from one racing program to another then that would have been considered taboo.bigblue wrote:NooooooooWazari wrote:I had left the F1 program at about when they started working on the RA109E (V-10) to work for Toyota.
one might think that the dog (relative competence in the determination of functionalities comprising the control system) is the key factorbigblue wrote: .......I guess there has to be some excellent software, and associated development practices, for the engine-control software, telemetry, simulation. I wonder if failures (or at least retirements) have occurred in F1 due to sofware bugs, given the complex interations between parts of the engine - I would imagine so.
Million dollar questionrestless wrote:Do we have idea how big was the difference in fuel efficiency between 2016 Honda and Mercedes?
50 million dollar question.Andres125sx wrote:Million dollar questionrestless wrote:Do we have idea how big was the difference in fuel efficiency between 2016 Honda and Mercedes?
People were saying this time last year that ERS fix will have domino effect on things as well.ringo wrote:I think the TJI will erase all performance defecits of the Honda engine. It seems that it will have a domino effect on other aspects of the PU. It wont speak to relaibility or lubrication however, but looking on how close ferrari are to mercedes in terms of power over the rev band Honda should be in good shape next year. Deployment i figure is down simply copying the observed deployment of mercedes over all circuits. Honda just needs to make sure their pu can deploy at the same power level at every inch on the track where merceded can and do it every lap. With that kind of tenacity they should be in good stead. I really wont be surprised if all the engines are dead even at the end of 2017.
