2014 Japanese Grand Prix - Suzuka

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RZS10 wrote:
Diesel wrote:Hearing reports he might be going in to a second operation to reduce bleeding.
ofc those are all rumours but that wouldn't really shine a good light on the medical staff, would it?

i suspect one does not suddenly start bleeding in the brain somewhere, the tissue was damaged, or wasn't ... so if they'd see some bleeding NOW that would require another surgery ....... :shock:
He would be getting best treatment, brain injuries are just very complex. Schumacher had to have multiple operations to reduce bleeding.

Hopefully we can wake up to better news tomorrow, but based on the info so far I would say Jules has got a longer recovery ahead of him. It's very unlikely he will race next season IMHO.

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http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=30rmgp5 ... DG3BhbsWUl

This is supposed to be the telemetry data. If this is real he was pretty fast

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kaller wrote:http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=30rmgp5 ... DG3BhbsWUl

This is supposed to be the telemetry data. If this is real he was pretty fast
Not faster than anyone else ...

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Diesel wrote:It's very unlikely he will race next season IMHO.
No way we see him in an F1 car again. I think people are underestimating how hard it is to recover from brain injuries.

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johnsonwax wrote:
Diesel wrote:It's very unlikely he will race next season IMHO.
No way we see him in an F1 car again. I think people are underestimating how hard it is to recover from brain injuries.
Bit soon no? Massa came back from a pretty nasty one after all.

Best just to wait and see.

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Yeah. Too early to say anything.

Maybe get back to the actual race. Impressive performance from Lewis Jenson and Seb today. Anyone thinking if Nico doesnt win in Russia, he's going to be in some trouble. The track should suit lewis, its like singapore in my opinion, so should suit lewis more than Nico
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Everything we say is a bit soon. I possess no special powers - my words won't change the outcome, I promise, and I'll be thrilled to be proven wrong.

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NathanOlder wrote:Yeah. Too early to say anything.

Maybe get back to the actual race. Impressive performance from Lewis Jenson and Seb today. Anyone thinking if Nico doesnt win in Russia, he's going to be in some trouble. The track should suit lewis, its like singapore in my opinion, so should suit lewis more than Nico
With a 10 point lead, IF we had another 1-2 in Hamilton's favour, the lead is 17 points. If my maths are right, a lead of 14 or more going to Abu Dhabi would be unbeatable? Assuming they finished 1-2 there anyway.

Personally I'd quite like the title resolved one way or the other before the final race, would hate the double points nonsense to be the deciding factor...
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piast9 wrote:
bonjon1979 wrote:Your car would slow down. What's the problem?
Sudden power cutoff at the corner may cause a spin. That's the problem.
Edit: the solution could be that the driver has to press himself a yellow-flag limiter. Then that power reduction will occur at the moment that driver is conscious of..
Agreed, e.g. give the driver 10 seconds to engage it himself, that would be very safe.
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Something doesn't seem right to me since the Nico/Lewis incident. Japan is the first race where it appears the teammates had very different setups, with Lewis having the obviously better wet setup. Surely Nico was aware it was going to rain and that there are no points for pole. Nico out braking himself (twice!) on the safest part of the track to do so. And in spite of Nico losing the WDC lead, he doesn't seem to be overly upset, and Lewis doesn't seem to be too upset to have been out qualified by .3s.

The whole thing is just a bit strange.

That aside, I can't recall a race run almost in its entirety on inters. There was no real consideration of going either to drys or wets until the very end, and they got onto inters quite quickly once the SC let them go at the start.

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Richard wrote:Maybe I'm missing something but an earlier race would have been worse? They started under the safety car for 2 laps then stopped on lap 3 for the rain to ease up. After that we had pretty good racing in inters for most drivers. Many of the drivers were still setting good times on inters at the end of the race.

In contrast, lets say they brought the start forward by an hour or two, then the race would have ended in very heavy rain, the same sort of stuff they started with today.

The race was going to be wet whatever time is started, and it seems to me that we were fortunate most of it took place in a window of relatively less heavy rain.
The main advantage of an earlier start would have been to reduce the time pressure and allow full use of the 4hr window in which the race can take place if necessary. There's no point having a 4hr time window when sunset is 2hrs after race start at an unlit track.

In terms of safety car deployment I think that a good rule to go by in cases like this would be that if a car has gone off due to a slippery circuit (rain, oil, whatever) then heavy vehicles can't be deployed without a safety car. Sure you could get 2 cars going off at the same place under normal conditions but the probability is much lower especially if they give even a slight lift once the yellows are out. On the other other hand, once you have a slight dip in the track where the water is deeper, or a river is forming or a patch of oil has been dropped the odds of multiple cars leaving the circuit with very a similar trajectory are hugely increased even if they do lift.

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They had the same exact setup, this was confirmed by Nico.
Hamilton was just more adaptable to the conditions.
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Did Lewis make a mistake in quali that I missed? .3s slower is quite a lot between those two.

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He locked up at the hairpin, and said he "wasn't feeling it".

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djos wrote:
piast9 wrote:
bonjon1979 wrote:Your car would slow down. What's the problem?
Sudden power cutoff at the corner may cause a spin. That's the problem.
Edit: the solution could be that the driver has to press himself a yellow-flag limiter. Then that power reduction will occur at the moment that driver is conscious of..
Agreed, e.g. give the driver 10 seconds to engage it himself, that would be very safe.
Wouldn't the driver then carry on at full pelt even through the yellow flag zone if it were less than ten seconds away, then only engage at the final moment?