Alonso's Crash

[FrukostScones]

elctroshock might not be impossible,
but according to omnicorse.it the other electronic systems would have been "fried" if the Ers battery would have "electrified" the car and it was not the case. So probaly no electro shock.

http://www.omnicorse.it/magazine/49415/ ... -meno-male

https://translate.google.de/translate?s ... rl&act=url

[Abarth]

Just for information, Gazetta writes that they know about what is on the onboard filming of Vettels car.
http://www.gazzetta.it/Formula-1/06-03- ... 2778.shtml

"[...]mostrando la McLaren di Alonso che imposta la lunga curva a destra e poi invece di mantenere la propria velocità, allargando all’esterno verso il cordolo, rallenta improvvisamente e da centro strada si sposta verso destra, in direzione del muretto, senza alcuna reazione del pilota, come se la MP4-30 fosse abbandonata a se stessa e non più governata. Perciò sono da escludere la perdita di aderenza sull’erba sintetica o il vento (spiegazione inverosimile tirata fuori all’inizio dalla squadra) come cause dell’incidente. "

"After entering the corner, instead of maintaining the own speed and opening towards the outside, it (the McLaren) suddenly reduces speed and from the center of the road it moves towards the wall, without any reaction of the driver, as if the car would be left alone and no longer being controlled.

Therefore, grip loss on astroturf, as well as wind, can be excluded. [....]"

[Shafto]

I know this covers similar information, but seems legit.

Fernando Alonso thought he was in 1995

EDIT: this was linked in an F1 Fanatic round-up

[bauc]

[lebesset]

Sometimes, we must realize that we simply dont have all the facts neither the knowledge to make such conclusions and all we can do is wait for more data and trust the experts.[/quote]

You can say it louder but no clearer. Some engineers reported it is difficult but not impossible.[/quote]
So we are going from "difficult & near impossible to eletro shock" to "he definitely got shocked"? Yeah... . Note to myself: a possibility that is near impossible equals fact from now on. You learn something every day.

You can count on it that those engineers will probably have thought "no chance at all he got electrocuted", only to leave the door a tiny tiny bit open so that they can't get critisized afterwards.[/quote]

I am not saying he got electrocuted. Im not even saying that he 'probably' got electrocuted. All I'm saying is that we can't say, from our houses far far away, that he was NOT electrocuted. We are not in position to say anything except what was told in the press, cause we simply dont have enough data or knowledge to do so.

Again: all we can do is wait for more info.[/quote]

but hospital blood test say no electric shock ....not rocket science

[Danlizzyman]

The cause of the crash is a mystery at the moment and we may never find out the exact cause, but finger's crossed that Alonso will be fit to drive again.

That tweet makes me feel sad for some reason, hopefully in a few weeks he'll be fighting at Sepang and I'll be laughing at myself for being such an idiot for letting myself get caught up in the speculation surrounding him...

[radosav]

I am convinced more and more that Alonso's crash was result of aliens trying to abduct and return Fernando in car during high speed corner, so no one can see abduction! But something went wrong! It was their test too after all! I have inside information that they (aliens )will be ready for Melbourne !

[Moose]

I am convinced more and more that Alonso's crash was result of aliens trying to abduct and return Fernando in car during high speed corner, so no one can see abduction! But something went wrong! It was their test too after all! I have inside information that they (aliens )will be ready for Melbourne !

This is the most plausible of all the tin foil hat theories I've heard in all honesty.

[SectorOne]

https://twitter.com/alo_oficial/status/ ... 9878350848 Apparently it was 1995 for Alonso.

[acosmichippo]

WTF does that even mean? Did he get another concussion?

[Gonchi]

DC pretty straight and clear. I don't know if it was an electric discharge or whatever that didn't work quite properly in the car, but I agree with him that there's something that they are not telling us. Call it because there's money involved or because they were testing something outside safety regulations. Call it as you want, but I don't buy the official version.
http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/formula1/31759693

[Manoah2u]

I believe Fernando Alonso was shocked by either his battery pack or MGU-K unit.

Remember this?



I decided to finally make a post in this thread after reviewing numerous posts, videos, blog posts etc. It's the only plausible scenario and I believe the Formula 1 / FIA needs to open up on this matter as Australian press are starting to make a dogs breakfast out of it.

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/motorsport/ ... 3x7bz.html

"the only plausible"

the funny thing is, this is absolute proof the driver can't get electrocuted =D> =D>

i can't believe you guys don't even see the irony in your own posts.

driver is in a car that is under a [potential] current becuase it has a 'ground' leak. driver just drives around,
touching his steering wheel, fully wearing overalls and gloves, nothing going on.

team personel without gloves, bare hands, walking thus making earth contact [ground] touches car and makes a circuit.

nobody dies, the mechanic simply gets a minor shock like what you'd get on a power cattle fence.
funniest part; only one not wearing gloves.

conclusions from video:

- driver is isolated and does not get shocked
- there needs to be a circuit where current can flow through, the mechanic became the bridge
- the mechanic should have worn gloves so he can't conduct electricity thus will not get shocked
- mechanic had no memory loss, did not work for Ron, and was fully operational [go look it up]
- cars have safety light on the Tcam and mechanics are mandated to wear protection so this can't happen
- nobody died

so thanks for sharing this video, for completely debunking the electrocution theory. there are enough in the other thread that seem delibaretly unread and ignored. this video is dead proof.
driver should be f*%king dead according to the amount of retarded electrocution advocates here.

i wonder if complete ignorance should become accepted as a real mental disorder. perhaps then pills could be given so the insanity stops and common sense and that grey mass in the head get's used properly again.

no can we please move on from this dead-horse electrocution theory


and actually return to discuss Alonso's actual Crash? instead of thin-air inventions?

[R_Redding]

This is the guy who designed hondas ERS system explaining why its safe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDf2nhfxVzg

and on high voltages

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snk3C4m44SY
Rob

[Manoah2u]

This is the guy who designed hondas ERS system explaining why its safe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDf2nhfxVzg

and on high voltages

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snk3C4m44SY
Rob

this guy is hilarious

[ojlopez]

I don't think electricity has anything to do with the crash. If it was the case, Alonso's hands or feet should have spasmed and either shift gear, turn the wheel, accelerate or brake, or move in any direction; or at least swear.

I know because I am a plant engineer and had electricity say Hi to me a couple of times, from 60V to 220V, and have seen a guy get zapped with 440V (very short time, not thru the chest, survived) and the common reaction is to remove the hand from the offending wire, or if is not in the hand, have some part of the body spasm...and swearing.

I think it might have been a blackout, maybe because of stress and fatigue. My wife once crashed the same way, the day before she got up at 5am, drove 160Km, did her job there and then drove again the 160Km and arrived home at 6Pm. The day of the crash, she was wasted, got up 6am and out of nowhere BAM, into a tree at about 10Km/h. So I think it might be possible fatigue.