2019 [R09] Austrian Grand Prix, Spielberg, 28-30 June

[langedweil]

Easy penalty for Max. Racing is not about hitting opponents and pushing them out of the track.

Nonsense .. Lec drove into Ves, not the other way around!?
He lost the corner ... c'est toute

[ringo]

Tough Decision, but Max has himself to blame if he loses the win. Both cars were side by side when he banged Leclerc.
As for Charles he fought really hard and the stewards will also be looking into whether he was pushing on into Max as well. But as mentioned before Max unnecessarily pushed Charles.
I blame Bottas and his crap defense for the outcome. Max literally breezed past Bottas like he wasn't there.

[izzy]

Seriously, if people think that's race they should go watch bumper cars. He didn't even go near the apex and pushed Charles off track, how is that "racing"?

yes it's like Rosberg in 2016, Max didn't turn in to the apex but later, that probably makes it "forcing a driver off the track" as opposed to "following the racing line on corner exit"

[astracrazy]

Just watching the replay and it looks to me Charles was ahead into the corner. So Max arriving late has to leave space on the exit. Otherwise we open the door to drivers sticking it up the inside with no consequences. The rules should defend the defending driver not the attacker.

[DiogoBrand]

And the worst part is that Max didn't even need that. If he had a little patience he could overtake cleanly, but since he's used to being the dirtiest driver on the grid and get away with it, he just thinks he can fight for position however he wants.

[Unc1eM0nty]

Bottas was lucky to get 3rd, another couple of laps and both Seb and Lewis would have passed him, he lost 8 seconds to Lewis in the last 10 or so laps

[spin1/2]

Honda have gone from "GP2 engine" to race-winning engine.

And no more exit-clause talk for Max.

[Brenton]

Horner: "He has to concede the corner" -
<< Horner says that when you're side by side with another driver, you're not entitled to be there and have to give it up if you're on the outside line.

Horner: "What are you supposed to do?"
-<< I don't know Chris... exit the corner on the inside line like any normal race car driver does when on the inside of another car?

Horner: "This is what F1 needs, this is hard racing"
--<< This means that side by side racing effectively doesn't exist. No racing any more. It implies that any time there's side by side racing, one driver is entitled to push the other driver off the track. It's the antithesis of racing... it's basically disallowing racing and turning F1 into bumper cars.

The problem is this hasn't been policed in F1 and given drivers the expectation of being able to do this without penalty.

Damon Hill argued that if you're not going to win the position when exiting the corner then you should just give up. Obviously as seen on previous laps, staying side by side on exit instead of conceding can result in being close enough at the end of the straight and getting the position back on the next corner entry.

Martin Brundle said "he didn't run him off the road" in the same post-race conversation on Sky with Damon Hill. I'd like to know what exactly Brundle considers running another driver off the road if that's not it.

[falonso81]

What ever the decision will be, the outcome will not be pretty.
Bottas and Gasly ... can't find the words.

[JonoNic]

Verstappen hit him twice before Leclerc went off

[WaikeCU]

Easy penalty for Max. Racing is not about hitting opponents and pushing them out of the track.

Nonsense .. Lec drove into Ves, not the other way around!?
He lost the corner ... c'est toute

It's hard to be polite about such an ignorant comment.

He’s dutch, you should understand.

[Unf]

Nonsense .. Lec drove into Ves, not the other way around!?
He lost the corner ... c'est toute

Are you blind or what? Max pushed him out of the track - it's not allowed.

[astracrazy]

I do wonder if they would delay the result till later if they strip Max with all the support he has.....could turn

[NL_Fer]

Max was full lock halfway the corner, only thing he cam in agressive an needed that room.

[Just_a_fan]

Do the Dutch riot? They might be doing so at the track if Max has his win taken away...that's a whole lot of orange on the track there!