Ferrari F14T

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Javert
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The tires? Hard as stones is ok with front pull rod? (in previous years they had problems, except Malasya 2012 :D )

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Javert wrote:The tires? Hard as stones is ok with front pull rod? (in previous years they had problems, except Malasya 2012 :D )
What exactly are you asking or stating?
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A side-by-side of the two diffusers
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Vanja #66
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Could it be, is Gary serious?

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/112367
The Ferrari F1 F14 T sounds a lot different to the other cars under braking. Why is this?

It is incredibly smooth on the downchanges. Everyone else is blipping the throttle a lot more and it's difficult to say why the Ferrari is so smooth in comparison.

All the cars have a zero torque loss upshift, seamless shift, but nobody has done that on the downshifts. With the ERS recharging from the rear wheels and the need to downchange under braking, it now might be a good idea.

We don't know for sure, but perhaps Ferrari is ahead of the game with such technology.
And they call it a stall. A STALL!

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scuderiafan wrote:
Cuky wrote:
nhojekim wrote:So they already bolted a new diffuser..

well, it is called testing...they are testing different parts to see which one works better, to compare results from wind tunnel and CFD to those measured on track,...
But they've been working on it forever, it should be perfect out of the box!
/sarcasm
If all the parts worked out of the box then no test will be conducted, but as the real world can not be simulated with 100% accuracy in the CFD and wind tunnel so they all are eager to participate in real time testing and different parts worked differently in track then they show in the windtunnel or in CFD. :D So long the game is run on a track then i think the importance of track testing can not be diminish. And another important aspect is whether the parts is working as it predicted would or not that is different caz may be it is performing but another parts can change the whole driving characteristics so they have to modifiy the whole things.
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Vanja #66 wrote:Could it be, is Gary serious?

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/112367
The Ferrari F1 F14 T sounds a lot different to the other cars under braking. Why is this?

It is incredibly smooth on the downchanges. Everyone else is blipping the throttle a lot more and it's difficult to say why the Ferrari is so smooth in comparison.

All the cars have a zero torque loss upshift, seamless shift, but nobody has done that on the downshifts. With the ERS recharging from the rear wheels and the need to downchange under braking, it now might be a good idea.

We don't know for sure, but perhaps Ferrari is ahead of the game with such technology.
The Ferrari engine could be thirstier and they've managed to save some fuel by making the downshifts smoother?

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Maybe that they apply some knowledge of the LaFerrari's KERS?
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Vanja #66
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Marc.W wrote:The Ferrari engine could be thirstier and they've managed to save some fuel by making the downshifts smoother?
Yeah, could easily be, since initial reports were that their engine had no problems with reliability, but did use some more fuel. Unofficially, I was informed that they were pressing the FIA to raise the fuel limit to 110kg per race a lot...
And they call it a stall. A STALL!

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Vanja #66 wrote:
Marc.W wrote:The Ferrari engine could be thirstier and they've managed to save some fuel by making the downshifts smoother?
Yeah, could easily be, since initial reports were that their engine had no problems with reliability, but did use some more fuel. Unofficially, I was informed that they were pressing the FIA to raise the fuel limit to 110kg per race a lot...
They are what? Not that that gets through this year, all teams have to decide in favour, but if that does happen next year I'll quit watching F1. We had enough lobbying last year.
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Jerez - Pre-season Test 1 - Day 4
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I cant See why it shouldnt be possible for ferrari not to copy mclaren's butterfly suspension. Ferraris suspension is much more further back than for example redbulls.

It looks like that Ferraris Rear supension is as far back as McLarens on the pictures :)

Is there something that I haven't thought of?

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Ferrari seem to be the best packaged working* car on comparing pictures with rival cars.

Red Bull are similarly tightly packed, but their engine can't cool so that is likely to change.

This car could be handy [-o<

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Atleast right now if they raced sunday i could see the fight between Ferrari and McLaren.

But ide rate the Ferrari stronger love the packaging.
But thats not why because of the reliability of the car. Its soo stable. This year reliability will be key.
Ferrari have done just that.
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Hovepeter wrote:I cant See why it shouldnt be possible for ferrari not to copy mclaren's butterfly suspension. Ferraris suspension is much more further back than for example redbulls.
It looks like that Ferraris Rear supension is as far back as McLarens on the pictures :)
I think that to create the desired aerodynamic effect the suspension arm must be just in front of the diffuser. Ferrari suspension is not that far back.

I hope Ferrari has copied the Merc idea of a carbon fiber peel for the gearbox to be able to move the attachment points of suspension leaving the gearbox untouched

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Vanja #66 wrote:
Marc.W wrote:The Ferrari engine could be thirstier and they've managed to save some fuel by making the downshifts smoother?
Yeah, could easily be, since initial reports were that their engine had no problems with reliability, but did use some more fuel. Unofficially, I was informed that they were pressing the FIA to raise the fuel limit to 110kg per race a lot...
AFAIK fuel limit and reliability are tied. A richer mixture can help cooling the engine and give more reliability