2022 Alpine F1 Team

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Redragon wrote:
22 Mar 2022, 02:47
I am guessing he is refering to Haas and Alfa Romeo?
https://the-race.com/formula-1/similar- ... uspicious/
But I found this interview
https://www.planetf1.com/news/otmar-sza ... ight-loss/

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Redragon wrote:
22 Mar 2022, 02:44
diffuser wrote:
22 Mar 2022, 02:06
Alonsismo wrote:
22 Mar 2022, 00:39
and what about overweight?
how much does Alpine A522 weight?
No idea
During testing there were rumours that Alpine was the lightest of all. But they were rumours
I mean, I know they're overweight. I know it doesn't help but is it THE problem? They also dropped weight by just replacing those 2 blocked louvers and 2 unblocked louvers with 3 flap panels and one smaller louver.

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Check out the telemetry analysis of the PU done by username Juzh here...

viewtopic.php?t=22079&start=3135

They are clearly behind Ferrari and Red bull and close to Mercedes although might actually fall behind them as well if they can sort out their aero stability issues.

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peewon wrote:
22 Mar 2022, 17:22
Check out the telemetry analysis of the PU done by username Juzh here...

viewtopic.php?t=22079&start=3135

They are clearly behind Ferrari and Red bull and close to Mercedes although might actually fall behind them as well if they can sort out their aero stability issues.

It's Telemetry, not sure he knows how to read it ....But I love the link he gave us.

Like Is said there it clearily show we're lacking DF. I put a green dash/dot next toall the spots there was a diference in on throttle. Only once was in Alonso's favour.


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El Rossi seems happy with the car. More speed to come.
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I think Alpine is closer to mercedes (in terms of race pace and qualy pace) than merc is to ferrari.

but the las GP was bad in terms of luck.

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Blackout wrote:
22 Mar 2022, 19:07
AR3-GP wrote:
22 Mar 2022, 18:19
radosav wrote:
22 Mar 2022, 17:11
Updates coming in Miami GP.
https://www.marca.com/motor/formula1/gp ... b45ef.html
And the engine?
The new engine is offering good data in terms of top speeds on the main straight and sectors, but its performance must be placed between questions. It was clearly inferior to ferrari and Honda engines (these with serious reliability problems, as seen) and only appeared to be ahead of Mercedes customers. At this point it is speculated that from the matrix of the star they could choose a somewhat conservative map for everyone, seeing that Hamilton and Russell would not see the fifth and sixth in the race endangered and that it was the maximum without abandonments. Then came the final gift with the breakdowns of Verstappen and Checo Pérez.
That's based on nothing, so complete BS. And marca is the least reliable source on earth for this kind of infos. Insiders are confident and think they are very close to the top and say the PU is just not fully optimized yet regarding mapping etc.
"Insiders are confident" - interesting. No info abt A522 PU on your twitter so far:)

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Alonso radio before race.

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diffuser wrote:
22 Mar 2022, 18:32
peewon wrote:
22 Mar 2022, 17:22
Check out the telemetry analysis of the PU done by username Juzh here...

viewtopic.php?t=22079&start=3135

They are clearly behind Ferrari and Red bull and close to Mercedes although might actually fall behind them as well if they can sort out their aero stability issues.

It's Telemetry, not sure he knows how to read it ....But I love the link he gave us.

Like Is said there it clearily show we're lacking DF. I put a green dash/dot next toall the spots there was a diference in on throttle. Only once was in Alonso's favour.


https://i.imgur.com/PsIhSye.jpeg
Well no doubt they're lacking downforce. But as evident from the lap delta graph, even with higher DF (and therefore more drag), Ferrari and RB are pulling out more time on the full throttle sections, apart from the main straight where the drag limits the top speed. This was the case with Merc and RB last year as well compared to other teams where they were middle of the pack in terms of top speed and speed trap but on account of running much higher DF. I believe Haas was often topping the speed traps last year.

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peewon wrote:
23 Mar 2022, 14:27
diffuser wrote:
22 Mar 2022, 18:32
peewon wrote:
22 Mar 2022, 17:22
Check out the telemetry analysis of the PU done by username Juzh here...

viewtopic.php?t=22079&start=3135

They are clearly behind Ferrari and Red bull and close to Mercedes although might actually fall behind them as well if they can sort out their aero stability issues.

It's Telemetry, not sure he knows how to read it ....But I love the link he gave us.

Like Is said there it clearily show we're lacking DF. I put a green dash/dot next toall the spots there was a diference in on throttle. Only once was in Alonso's favour.


https://i.imgur.com/PsIhSye.jpeg
Well no doubt they're lacking downforce. But as evident from the lap delta graph, even with higher DF (and therefore more drag), Ferrari and RB are pulling out more time on the full throttle sections, apart from the main straight where the drag limits the top speed. This was the case with Merc and RB last year as well compared to other teams where they were middle of the pack in terms of top speed and speed trap but on account of running much higher DF. I believe Haas was often topping the speed traps last year.
At lower speeds there isn't a significant more drag but there is a signicant more time on full throttle. With less DF at 100KPH if the Alpine driver goes full throttle he spins the car. So has to wait till 120 or 140 KPH to go full throttle. By then the Ferrari is already at 180 KPH or more cause he put the pedal to the metal at 100KPH. BTW, those numbers are not from the graph. just an example for illustration. The throttle graphs do show a constant delay by alonso to get on the throttle when comapred to LeClerc.

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“We have a solid base to build from now and we’ll continue our learning this weekend,” Fry continued, regarding the team’s plans for Saudi Arabia. “We don’t have any distinct upgrades for Saudi Arabia but we will run some interesting test items in practice, which will give us some ideas for future concepts. As it’s a low downforce circuit, we will have a different rear wing for this weekend and Esteban will return to the latest spec sidepod after the issue from last week. We have a development plan in place and we are pushing ahead as hard as we can for the Melbourne race and beyond.“

https://www.thecheckeredflag.co.uk/2022 ... -nick-fry/

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with "last spec sidepod" he refers to the new version?

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Alonsismo wrote:
25 Mar 2022, 02:00
with "last spec sidepod" he refers to the new version?
That's how I read it.

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diffuser wrote:
25 Mar 2022, 03:26
Alonsismo wrote:
25 Mar 2022, 02:00
with "last spec sidepod" he refers to the new version?
"latest" That's how I read it.

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What is the Enstone windtunnel like? Do they have rolling yaw table?
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