2024 Mercedes-AMG | Petronas F1 Team

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organic wrote:
14 Feb 2024, 12:26
Well the launch is like a funeral but the car looks great
KimiRai wrote:
14 Feb 2024, 12:22
Wolff: Our aim is to consolidate our positions towards Ferrari and Mclaren, sometimes Aston Martin, and be at the forward part of that group
Wow shockingly pessimistic. No wonder Ham was walking out
This feels like they think they're not going to win any races. Meanwhile, Leclerc is positive that he'll win and dedicate wins to Ferrari fans, and Zak Brown thinks McLaren are ready to go back to the top step. And Dan Fallows said their only target is Red Bull.

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I like the paintjob, keeps it flexible if they want to drop the paint and go bare carbon.

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Toto basically confirmed he must be replaced or the team will start going down inadvertently. McLaren, Aston and Ferrari aiming for wins, Toto wants to be in the mix... :lol:
And they call it a stall. A STALL!

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No black car. Not good news for Hamilton...

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I see Merc is still on the keeping a low profile since performance for the last 2 years have not been to their standard which is a good approach imo. time to see what the stopwatch says

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organic wrote:
14 Feb 2024, 12:26
Well the launch is like a funeral but the car looks great
KimiRai wrote:
14 Feb 2024, 12:22
Wolff: Our aim is to consolidate our positions towards Ferrari and Mclaren, sometimes Aston Martin, and be at the forward part of that group
Wow shockingly pessimistic. No wonder Ham was walking out
Its better to be lowkey when you have stepped on a rake for two years.

Car looks nice though

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Exactly. Better to under promise, and then over deliver. Once RB blow everyone away again, then Fallows, Zak Brown and co look like clowns once again. Toto doesn’t need mess up anymore.

Look, the car looks like, but it’s not going to challenge RB, and LH is jumping ship. No surprise the launch is like a funeral, it’s just the reality of this reg/era. Basically, they got it wrong.

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Vanja #66 wrote:
14 Feb 2024, 12:32
Toto basically confirmed he must be replaced or the team will start going down inadvertently. McLaren, Aston and Ferrari aiming for wins, Toto wants to be in the mix... :lol:
Well if the season ends like last year, those others will look like clowns again. Will see

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It's piling up (source is decent)

It is rumored, on the other hand, that this car and its theoretical data ended up deciding Hamilton to start his journey to Ferrari.
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F1NAC wrote:
14 Feb 2024, 12:47
Well if the season ends like last year, those others will look like clowns again. Will see
The point is Toto will be happy with a podium, others in the chasing pack won't. What will be the driving force in the team? Who wants to be chasing podiums instead of wins? Every person in an F1 team is a racer at heart and racers hate to fail trying to win, not to succeed in finishing 2nd. Failing to win gets you focused and motivated, there's nothing glorious about being the best of the rest.
And they call it a stall. A STALL!

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Livery is very nice. It reminds me of the Mclaren West liveries.

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Some questions being asked to James Allison from Formu1aUno -

https://formu1a.uno/allison-rifare-il-t ... della-w15/



What would you say were the main areas of focus with W15?
"A lot of focus has been on improving the unpredictable rear axle of the previous car. We worked on that to try to create a car that is easier for the drivers. At the beginning of a corner, when you are strong on the brakes and in the corner, the rear end has to be solid. And then as you approach the apex, the car has to feel progressively more agile and eager to turn. We tried to do this in the new car. We also worked hard to create a car with less drag and more cornering performance. Some improvements were also made to areas where we had room for improvement, including the DRS effect and pit stop performance. We were always very good at making a pit stop in a repeatable time, which is the key thing for a pit stop. However, we were always three or four tenths slower than the best teams. So we hope we have moved in the right direction."
How was the development of this car different from previous years?
"A new chassis and a new gearbox were standard for each year, pre budget-cap. The latter usually forces you to choose, but there are teams like us who opted to change both. There is no doubt that having a new outer gearbox casing and at the same time having a new chassis are two big projects that take a portion of our financial means. This means that in other parts of the car we have not pushed very hard in development. "
Are you satisfied with the progress and results so far?
"I feel we have kept all the things we said we would do. Some aspects are unlimited, so you can never be fully satisfied. However, we won't know until we really get the car up and running. But I think we can say that we have the feeling that we have worked well. Formula One is a relative game. Whether we have worked well enough to be competitive, only time will tell. We don't know what everyone else has done."
How much work went into the areas of the car that are not visible to the naked eye?
"Most of a Formula One car is not visible. That's always been the case, but it's even more so with the current generation of cars, where much of the performance comes from the way the floor interacts with the asphalt. All you see above is ugly, inefficient air conditioners trying to help the floor do its good work. Whether a car is effective or not depends on how well, at least aerodynamically, the floor can behave."
Do you already have an idea of what the next few months of development might look like?
"Most of the lap time you can find during the season comes from aerodynamics, but exactly what we find and in what area we don't know yet. The aerodynamics department, at this stage of the year, plans to spend quite a bit of effort on the front wings, the rear wings, the floor, the brakes, the bodywork, all of which may be coming to Europe. Many of these parts that we test will never be produced, but that's just the nature of experimentation. But if we commit to a wide enough range of experiments, then enough of them will yield positive results and there should be so a decent package to put on the car when we get back to Europe."
From a personal perspective, how much do you enjoy this time of year?
"It's kind of like waiting for Christmas. It's exciting. You want it to come and you want the days to fly by. You also know that opening those presents on Christmas Day might not bring you all the good fortune you want. It is not a relaxing time of year, but it is very exciting. I wouldn't have it any other way, and missing a couple of seasons in the role of Technical Director, I begin to remember the usual feelings of anticipation and trepidation."

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KimiRai wrote:
14 Feb 2024, 12:22
Wolff: Our aim is to consolidate our positions towards Ferrari and Mclaren, sometimes Aston Martin, and be at the forward part of that group
Where is that quote from? i've not seen anyone quote it on social media or him say that during the w15 reveal. Only thing i can find that talks about their positions relative to Ferrari, Mclaren and AM is an interview he just did with BBC

https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/68294760

Wolff said the team were keeping their expectations in check, hoping to lead the group compromising Ferrari, McLaren and Aston Martin, their main rivals last year, and push on towards catching Red Bull.
He said: "Most important is that you look inward. What is it we got wrong? Why did the virtual world not correlate with the real world?
"And we found some clues and tried to eliminate some variables. We know it is difficult and a big mountain to climb because if a team is far ahead like Red Bull was last year it is not easy.

"But we have a superb driver combination, hopefully a fast car and I think there are some very good ingredients to be back at the front again."
Wolff said: "The target is to do a good job, look inwards, try to have the car on track that is predictable and has lots of downforce and do a solid job and deliver on our targets, to give a car to Lewis and George that they enjoy driving and not as difficult as the previous years. And hopefully in Bahrain in a week's time, we will have more good feedback than bad."
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Luscion wrote:
14 Feb 2024, 13:42
KimiRai wrote:
14 Feb 2024, 12:22
Wolff: Our aim is to consolidate our positions towards Ferrari and Mclaren, sometimes Aston Martin, and be at the forward part of that group
Where is that quote from? i've not seen anyone quote it on social media or him say that during the w15 reveal
It was during the reveal. I was half expecting him to be revealing a "5 year plan" to get back to winning :lol: