At today's World Motorsport Council at Paris, the judges have decided to put Renault on probatation until the end of 2011, during which no further offences must be found. Former Renault F1 heads Briatore and Symonds are both punished severely and banned of FIA events.
Very true.gcdugas wrote:It is not uncommon for a team to have their drivers on two different strategies. And it is not uncommon for a team to gamble on there being a safety car.
...SZ wrote:A nice analogy with FIA crimes there... both are applied selectively, and in either case, whoever wins the battle writes the history books...Scotracer wrote:Then why do War Crimes exist, Eddie?
Your memory must be fading if that's the net sum of the marginal on-track antics you remember about that certain Red Baronrichard_leeds wrote:I recall a chap in red car deliberately crashing into another car taking them both off the track. Twice.
Very true.bill shoe wrote:My sense is that if all human behavior in Formula 1 were formally investigated then the last person banned from the paddock would have to turn out the lights because there would be nobody left.
Correlation can't ever prove prove any relationship between two unique events by definition. For instance, allegations of race fixing becoming public and Flav leaves Renault. Two unique events with, given their low statistical confidence (a sample of a population of one instance alone), could only form the loosest of correlations.ISLAMATRON wrote:It is proven by the FACT that FLAV has quit/been shown the door.
However there are many instances of threads that you've become involved in and the capacity for reasoned debate in these threads have gone completely to --- shortly after your arrival... whilst correlation can't prove anything, any observations one could conclude of course have a far greater statistical merit.
Of course, this doesn't prove at all that you're an unreasonable forum member, unless of course your assertion that Flav leaving Renault is certain proof of the cheating allegations, in their totality, being true. In which case it's proven with far greater statistical certainty that you're wholly unreasonable.
QED (or prove it otherwise...)
At the end of the day you've missed the boat totally if you think this matter is about proving anyone innocent or otherwise.King Six wrote:At the end of the day there is no way they would have left if they were truly innocent.
Mario "WhiteBlue" Puzzo's The Godfather's Godfather (don't forget the tune)WhiteBlue wrote:His fame will go through the roof and Italy will realise that they have the wrong prime minister.
King Six wrote:...SZ wrote:Correlation can't ever prove prove any relationship between two unique events by definition. For instance, allegations of race fixing becoming public and Flav leaves Renault. Two unique events with, given their low statistical confidence (a sample of a population of one instance alone), could only form the loosest of correlations.
However there are many instances of threads that you've become involved in and the capacity for reasoned debate in these threads have gone completely to --- shortly after your arrival... whilst correlation can't prove anything, any observations one could conclude of course have a far greater statistical merit.
Of course, this doesn't prove at all that you're an unreasonable forum member, unless of course your assertion that Flav leaving Renault is certain proof of the cheating allegations, in their totality, being true. In which case it's proven with far greater statistical certainty that you're wholly unreasonable.
QED (or prove it otherwise...)
At the end of the day there is no way they would have left if they were truly innocent.
You may not be able to see the connection between the race fixing and Flav's departure but it is as clear as day.... and all your statistical BS does not cloud the reality 1 bit. What other reason has been given for his departure?SZ wrote:At the end of the day you've missed the boat totally if you think this matter is about proving anyone innocent or otherwise.
for gods sake it pales into insignificance compared to the match fixing involved in cricket on the sub continent - whats the betting market worth there $20 Billion plus per annum - this is small fry. Nothing has been proven and nothing can be taken out of Briatore & Symonds pulling the pin on their gigs - its not the real world and nothing will be proven as in the real world 'beyond reasonable doubt' its really soap opera stuff to be honest - Alonso involved - I dont know and I dont care he's a seriously good driver with two WDC's to his name in marginal cars - thats all i care about. Will Renault pull out of F1 because of this - I dont care really same for Toyota - at the end of the day its F1 as we know it these days (unfortunately)
What does Indian Got to do with what i saidChaparral wrote:Come on you Indian based guys - you are seriously shocked by this Renault F1 stuff
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What does Cricket match fixing in Subcontinent and other countries got to do with this??for gods sake it pales into insignificance compared to the match fixing involved in cricket on the sub continent - whats the betting market worth there $20 Billion plus per annum - this is small fry. Nothing has been proven and nothing can be taken out of Briatore & Symonds pulling the pin on their gigs - its not the real world and nothing will be proven as in the real world 'beyond reasonable doubt' its really soap opera stuff to be honest
I honestly don't know how corrupt sports are in India.Chaparral wrote:Come on you Indian based guys - you are seriously shocked by this Renault F1 stuff
