Italian GP 2010 - Monza

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I think with an empty track the ferrari is faster.
Notice that whenever Alonso catches up to button, it's like he has to brake earlier, almost as if button was part of the traffice, this kind of thing takes away from a potentially fast lap time.
The parabolica also slowed alonso up. He settled far enough from Button's dirty air to make sure he kept the car on track.
I was not surprised he got Button as soon as the track was clear.
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He didn't really get Button. He barely passed him after the pits. He was running in clean air then, but we didn't see massively faster laps.

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komninosm wrote:He didn't really get Button. He barely passed him after the pits. He was running in clean air then, but we didn't see massively faster laps.
I don´t know what you call "massively faster" but after his pitstop Alonso laped 0,30 - 1,10 sec a lap faster then Button.
As you can see, by the quickly increasing gap.
In ten laps, he pulled a ~3 sec gap, that makes ~0,3 sec consitently quicker.
It´s not too bad IMHO

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Coincidentally Hamilton was catching Button at that rate as well last year, but as we all know his race ended in the armco. Race and qualy pace is one and the same to me.
No surprise Alonso had the speed stored up. Massa was flying as well, but in the early stages.
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I wonder if the teams used their usual underfuelling strategy so they're quicker at the start, or if Monza's unique track configuration of super straights would mean they wouldn't have dared risk using anything but max power and max revs for the race
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ringo wrote:He settled far enough from Button's dirty air
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did Button fart?? :mrgreen:

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It was awesome to watch a Alonso on podium and his first Italian Grand Prix.

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http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2010/09/i ... -of-speed/

Ferrari were the only team to develop a special low downforce F-ducted rear wing. McLaren and Renault brought their Spa wings which had a lot more AoA and bigger tube cross section. This is plausible because Ferrari retain the biggest resources in F1 to the day. They will also have to shed the most to get down to 350 as required by the RRA for 2011. Their relative performance for the last five races should be on a lower level than Monza as there is no opportunity to repeat this trick.
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But Williams also had a specialy designed low downforce rear wing for Monza with F-duct :?:

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So James Allen is incorrect then.......

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tomazy wrote:But Williams also had a specialy designed low downforce rear wing for Monza with F-duct :?:
Williams isn't a top team that is watched for every % of performance.
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And what about McLaren or STR? Lotus and Virgin also seemed to have unique wings and Renault used the normal one with some mods. All those teams spent money on it so that the problem was not really budget but who did it the best way. People miss why some institutions have more money than others sometimes.
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I don't get the Hamilton steering rack failure. Shouldn't the fact that the front wheels, with the additional degree of freedom provided by actually moving and steering, have helped to deflect some of the sidepod-bump energy?
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It was the right track rod that failed. It was obvious that the left one still worked. Carbon composite component not designed for the over load.
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Yes, but couldn't the right wheel have been moved, and "steering" the steering wheel? That would deflect some of the energy, wouldn't it?
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