Telamo wrote:I stalk the forum regularly but now had to make an account just to comment on the heated conversation about the Perez/Raikkonen incident.
I mean beelsebob's points are very much right considering the rules,
-yes it's obvious Kimi was making a defensive manouver there
-yes it says in the rules if even the front wing of the attacking car is on the side of the defending one you gotta leave a space
but you're really making it out to be something static and very rational, like a chess game. We're talking about high speed racing. I mean there's actually only a window of maybe a second where everything goes south for both. If Raikkonen now had to decide what to do in hindsight everyone probably agrees he would just cut the corner. His plan most likely wasn't to cause a collision with the turn in, was it. So there has to be a reason why he still did it and that reason probably is he didn't expect Perez to actually come in so fast. He expected Perez to lift off. His assumption was Perez wasn't going to try it, because he'd have to come in so fast he'd have to cut the corner.
Right, I'm making it seem rather more analytical than it is. But the point I'm making is not really "zomg, Kimi got it wrong, he should be punished/banned/punched/fired out of a canon", but instead "guys, calm down, and stop bashing Perez, he did have a bit of a sloppy race, but you can't simply pin everything on him because of that".
Even in hindsight we still don't know tho whether Perez would've made the corner or not, but I really doubt it. I mean look at how fast he's coming in and taking the inside line to that turn means you'll have to almost stop to make it. He shoulnd't have gone through with that overtake attempt in the first place. And I'm betting that's why Raikkonen is saying it's "stupid".
The problem I have with that argument is that it really shouldn't matter at all. Had Kimi left room, everything would have worked out reasonably in some way or another. Either checo would have sailed through the chicaine, and kimi would have got his place back, or checo would have made the corner, and it would have been a 100% valid overtake.
So I'm saying Perez made the wrong call in even trying from so far behind (I mean come in fast enough and you obviously you can get on the side of a turning car but a move like that is not going to stick) and Raikkonen made the wrong call in assuming Perez wouldn't still try it.
I can mostly agree with that, but I find it a bit hard to simply say "if you come from a long way back it's your fault". You only need to look at lewis' classic overtake from Monza that you can make moves work, even when you're coming charging in from 5 car lengths back at the start of the braking zone.
So to close it off the decision by Kimi to cut off Perez's line was made on the assumption he's not gonna try a banzai. Wrong assumption. What to do. By the rules I don't know if either deserves to be penalized.
I would tend to agree that we should not see either penalised here (good job stewards!)
Actually by the rules I guess the one to get a penalty would be Raikkonen, but considering the situation that would be quite ridiculous.
Yep, you're right, by the letter of it, Kimi is at fault, but as many have said, it's simply a racing incident. Mostly the reason I've been so vocal on this topic is to stop people from bashing poor Checo so much.
Delta racing at it's finest!
