Can't trust those numbers from those FIA flow meters, it makes no sense when you consider this is the very same car.gray41 wrote:Lewis' fuel management with lap time almost seems illogical.
Just how?
Can't trust those numbers from those FIA flow meters, it makes no sense when you consider this is the very same car.gray41 wrote:Lewis' fuel management with lap time almost seems illogical.
Just how?
Seeing how big the RB disadvantage in acceleration during medium to high Speeds appeared to be, I tend to agree.beelsebob wrote:Honestly, I have no idea how anyone at this point can think the Merc has aero dominance. The RedBull is clearly better in this area for me.
Agreed. I think it is ominous that Red Bull has shown this kind of improvement. They were looking like they wouldn't make the top ten in the first few races. But Riccardo's 2nd place in Aus and Vettel's performance today was unexpected. They are now solidly number 2 behind Merc. But I wouldn't be surprised if they catch up by China.beelsebob wrote:Honestly, I have no idea how anyone at this point can think the Merc has aero dominance. The RedBull is clearly better in this area for me.
It is a good chassis... but perhaps it would be better to say that they have a far more developed chassis compared to some of the other cars (except maybe Red Bull) since they have had started development for 2014 long ago and they had a good winter test.ACJJ619 wrote:If Mercedes are over a second faster than everyone else due to the engine, where does the 1.5/2 second advantage to their nearest Mercedes powered rival come from? They're near enough two seconds quicker than any other Mercedes powered car - it can't all be engine.
Make no mistake - that is a very, very good chassis.
I don't think anyone has said that have they? RB clearly have the better car, but Mercedes have the better engine. So far this season though engine > chassis.beelsebob wrote:Honestly, I have no idea how anyone at this point can think the Merc has aero dominance. The RedBull is clearly better in this area for me.
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The only noteworthy thing to me was between Hulk and Alo.
Jonnycraig wrote:I don't think anyone has said that have they? RB clearly have the better car, but Mercedes have the better engine. So far this season though engine > chassis.beelsebob wrote:Honestly, I have no idea how anyone at this point can think the Merc has aero dominance. The RedBull is clearly better in this area for me.
They were slower in top speed but faster in acceleration because they had shorter gears. This is no longer the case. RB (and other renaults) was 15-20 kmh slower than any merc powered car in S1 speed trap, and again 10-15 kmh slower in S3.ACJJ619 wrote:Jonnycraig wrote:I don't think anyone has said that have they? RB clearly have the better car, but Mercedes have the better engine. So far this season though engine > chassis.beelsebob wrote:Honestly, I have no idea how anyone at this point can think the Merc has aero dominance. The RedBull is clearly better in this area for me.
I don't think Red Bull do 'clearly have the better car'. Hamilton was around 10-15kph faster through the speed trap than Vettel. The second or so advantage can't come from that alone. Red Bull have often found themselves way off the speed trap leaders over the past few years and that didn't seem to hinder them too much in the past.
If I could +1 you, I would. This is why they're slower, pretty much entirely. They're not only slower at top speed, but slower accelerating too.Juzh wrote:They were slower in top speed but faster in acceleration because they had shorter gears. This is no longer the case. RB (and other renaults) was 15-20 kmh slower than any merc powered car in S1 speed trap, and again 10-15 kmh slower in S3.
Sector Times from FIA.combeelsebob wrote:If I could +1 you, I would. This is why they're slower, pretty much entirely. They're not only slower at top speed, but slower accelerating too.Juzh wrote:They were slower in top speed but faster in acceleration because they had shorter gears. This is no longer the case. RB (and other renaults) was 15-20 kmh slower than any merc powered car in S1 speed trap, and again 10-15 kmh slower in S3.
Dont underestimate being the factory mercedes team... I would bet they keep all the latest/best engine stuff (software ofc) for themselves.ACJJ619 wrote:If Mercedes are over a second faster than everyone else due to the engine, where does the 1.5/2 second advantage to their nearest Mercedes powered rival come from? They're near enough two seconds quicker than any other Mercedes powered car - it can't all be engine.
Make no mistake - that is a very, very good chassis.