Sebastian Vettel secured another top spot on the podium today at the Malaysian GP at Sepang. Just like in Australia he had a great start and pushed to the end to keep rivals at distance. Jenson Button drove consistently to second while Nick Heidfeld secured a second podium for Lotus Renault.
LOL man there's no justice...Diesel wrote:Lap 28 - Schumacher Vs. Kobayashi - Schumacher made 2 moves on the pit straight, penalty please.
Lap 44 - Petrov Vs. Massa - Petrov also does a similar thing, penalty please.
If you've seen a few race starts before, you'd know that everyone changes directions multiple times at the race start, jockeying for position. The FIA would have to penalize everyone. If you penalize everyone, the penalty has no effect on the final race result so no point in implementing it.20.2 Manoeuvres liable to hinder other drivers, such as more than one change of direction to defend a position,
deliberate crowding of a car beyond the edge of the track or any other abnormal change of direction, are
not permitted.
Hamilton wasn't trying to defend though, he was trying to get past Vettel who kept swerving to block him - in clear breach of the rule that Hamilton was later punished for breaking. Vettel swerved to directly block moves by Hamilton, something that Lewis didn't actually do when later defending from Alonso. Lewis moved preemptively to position the car, Vettel swerved to block.Formula None wrote:The references to Vettel's race start moves are made irrelevant by Hamilton's own moves directly behind him (almost takes off Button's front wing):
If you've seen a few race starts before, you'd know that everyone changes directions multiple times at the race start, jockeying for position. The FIA would have to penalize everyone. If you penalize everyone, the penalty has no effect on the final race result so no point in implementing it.20.2 Manoeuvres liable to hinder other drivers, such as more than one change of direction to defend a position,
deliberate crowding of a car beyond the edge of the track or any other abnormal change of direction, are
not permitted.
If you count the moves at the start, Vettel makes 5, Hamilton makes 4. Its a moot point. As I said, everyone changes position more than once at the start, its the nature of the start. Punishing everyone would have no effect on final race results, so it's not implemented for the rush to the first corner, is how I see it. Regardless, you can just as easily say Hamilton was defending against Button when he swerved inches in front of him, as opposed to "he was reacting to Vettel's defensive moves". You could say that about every car at the start. Is racer x (lol) defending or making offensive moves or avoiding collision? Moot point either way, in the lead up to the first corner.myurr wrote: Hamilton wasn't trying to defend though, he was trying to get past Vettel who kept swerving to block him - in clear breach of the rule that Hamilton was later punished for breaking. Vettel swerved to directly block moves by Hamilton, something that Lewis didn't actually do when later defending from Alonso. Lewis moved preemptively to position the car, Vettel swerved to block.
There is nothing in the rules that says the start is exempt and drivers have been reprimanded in the past for excessive swerving at the start. It's just another case of hopeless inconsistency from the ever incompetent FIA.
I think both KERS units failed during the race. Vettel's one started working again towards the end of the race.atanatizante wrote:Does anybody saw Vettel`s KERS on board footage working at the start of the race? We saw Webber`s but he said that his wasn`t working before the start?
What I`m trying to say is the fact that RB didn`t put KERS again!
These are the following reasons:
1.With KERS the rear tyres goes quickly because affects weights distribution. Just see 2009 season ...
2.They have had issues in FP1 with Vettel and Webber didn`t said it worked 100%. Also in winter testing were the same issues. You have to bare in mind that the system is custom made, because just one of the three components is Renault 100%
4.The pole position was on the clean side of the track
5.The prospect of a rain race
6.The Renault`s engine torque is the best on the grid. Just look at the Heidfeld and Petrov`s starts
For the start debate:Formula None wrote: If you count the moves at the start, Vettel makes 5, Hamilton makes 4. Its a moot point. As I said, everyone changes position more than once at the start, its the nature of the start. Punishing everyone would have no effect on final race results, so it's not implemented for the rush to the first corner, is how I see it. Regardless, you can just as easily say Hamilton was defending against Button when he swerved inches in front of him, as opposed to "he was reacting to Vettel's defensive moves". You could say that about every car at the start. Is racer x (lol) defending or making offensive moves or avoiding collision? Moot point either way, in the lead up to the first corner.
The point isn't a Vettel vs Hamilton ying-yang thing. It's just one more case where the rule should have been enforced equally if at all:Diesel wrote:Lap 28 - Schumacher Vs. Kobayashi - Schumacher made 2 moves on the pit straight, penalty please.
Lap 44 - Petrov Vs. Massa - Petrov also does a similar thing, penalty please.
The weight distribution is now mandated... the addition or subtraction of KERS has no effect on the weight distribution now.atanatizante wrote: 1.With KERS the rear tyres goes quickly because affects weights distribution. Just see 2009 season ...
) that Hamilton was penalized for first corner incident in Japan 2008 ( for late braking !! ) and not even causing an icident. I know it's a totally different thing, but it just shows that people may get penalised for first corner incidents for similar things.