Red Bull RB8 Renault

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As it is all speculation, one could say as well that the front wing F-Duct was an invention, a fantasy. The carbon box was not for sealing the nose, but to cover the suspension parts. So this would be a Kansas City Shuffle :D

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ForMuLaOne wrote:As it is all speculation, one could say as well that the front wing F-Duct was an invention, a fantasy.
This forum is all about demonstrating the validity of someone's speculation. Using what evidence and logic you can gather to prove your point.

The Front F Duct as an example: There is absolutely no evidence that it exists, photographic or otherwise. There is no agreed upon benefit for such a system, so no logic to assume that it need exist.

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If a team uses an F-duct front wing there will be an intake of some kind on the wing itself since the nose hole thing is illegal. The basic concept is still completely doable. If it exists. If it works. If it's effective.

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I'd imagine though - if it's an intake anywhere other than the nosecone or the wing itself; redirecting the flow in itself would cause a LOT of drag....
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MASSIVE +1

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On Topic, is the rear rake of the RB8 a lower profile compared to last year due to the loss of the EBD system?
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hardingfv32 wrote:
ForMuLaOne wrote:As it is all speculation, one could say as well that the front wing F-Duct was an invention, a fantasy.
This forum is all about demonstrating the validity of someone's speculation. Using what evidence and logic you can gather to prove your point.

The Front F Duct as an example: There is absolutely no evidence that it exists, photographic or otherwise. There is no agreed upon benefit for such a system, so no logic to assume that it need exist.

Brian
Journalists and Magazines reported it, team members and principals commented it, last year even MGP said they wouldn't go for it, because Rosberg and Schumacher weren't comfortable with it.
What is this gonna be, the Bielefeld Conspiracy? #-o :mrgreen:
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The flexing front wing discussion was split into its own seperate topic
:arrow: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=11964

hardingfv32
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MIKEY_! wrote:If a team uses an F-duct front wing there will be an intake of some kind on the wing itself since the nose hole thing is illegal. The basic concept is still completely doable. If it exists. If it works. If it's effective.
Provide a simple explanation of its benefit? Scarbs couldn't in his article and the thread on the subject drew on conclusions.

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[quote="Intego"]Journalists and Magazines reported it, team members and principals commented it, last year even MGP said they wouldn't go for it....

Babble. This is a technical forum. Comments are of no value unless they further our understanding of the system. We have absolutely no photographic evidence of its existence or even a agreed upon benefit.

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hardingfv32 wrote:
MIKEY_! wrote:If a team uses an F-duct front wing there will be an intake of some kind on the wing itself since the nose hole thing is illegal. The basic concept is still completely doable. If it exists. If it works. If it's effective.
Provide a simple explanation of its benefit? Scarbs couldn't in his article and the thread on the subject drew on conclusions.

Brian
Benefit of the Front Wing F-Duct ?

Scarbs goes into various uses in his article, one being that the F-Duct stalls the flow over the wing at a set speed, so you can run a higher angle front wing to give better slow speed benefits but stall the wing at high speeds to increase straight line performance.

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New air intake on the RB8 I haven't seen mentioned. They even went so far as to cover it up. Right click>view image

Hiding/different bodywork
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Exactly, thank you, HB. :!:
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Jan_83
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Yea. Cause it's the headrest. :D

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Crucial_Xtreme wrote:New air intake on the RB8 I haven't seen mentioned. They even went so far as to cover it up. Right click>view image

Hiding/different bodywork

Are you serious?!

That's just the cockpit head protection seam, no vent, no nothing.