Care to expand... If possible with pictures...godlameroso wrote: ↑11 Jun 2020, 17:51McLaren ALMOST has their bargeboard setup on point. They just need a little tweaking to the outer edge. Nice chunk of time right there.
Care to expand... If possible with pictures...godlameroso wrote: ↑11 Jun 2020, 17:51McLaren ALMOST has their bargeboard setup on point. They just need a little tweaking to the outer edge. Nice chunk of time right there.
Who's to say they don't know where to focus? They probably do know what to do and how to develop this area, these things take time, you can't just slap wings on a car and presto chango downforce. You have to run studies to validate your theories, you have to design stuff to work with the rest of the car, refine your design, then finally implement it on the car. From eureka moment to putting it on the car takes ~3 months, just for bargeboards.
So all of that takes time but you can tell from a photo that their current design is wrong? I think that's what the original query meant.godlameroso wrote: ↑15 Jun 2020, 23:48Who's to say they don't know where to focus? They probably do know what to do and how to develop this area, these things take time, you can't just slap wings on a car and presto chango downforce. You have to run studies to validate your theories, you have to design stuff to work with the rest of the car, refine your design, then finally implement it on the car. From eureka moment to putting it on the car takes ~3 months, just for bargeboards.
3d printed stuff can be used in FP's to accelerate development but those 3d printed parts aren't going to hold up to a race, or qualifying session.
I understand that, McLaren had a slim nose in 2018 before Mercedes. But look at how much they gained in 2019 alone by making changes to that precise area of the bargeboard. Not saying other parts of the car played no part in the improved performance. I just understand something I've been studying for a long time, and more developments keep reinforcing what I've learned to be true. Something that is happening with airflow in that region. Regardless of what happens upstream there is still free stream air interacting with that part of the car. The turbulence of the tire is the key.f1rules wrote: ↑16 Jun 2020, 07:47That was exactly my point, but quess it was not clear enough,
Godlameroso, i know it takes time, the point was, how on earth you can judge from a picture and tell what mclaren need to do in the bargeboard area, for they gain greatly, when they have god knows how many aero engineers and state of the art tools already working on it. How the bargeboard area look and work is largely determined by the front concept of the car, and the flow structures it creates, so what merc does, doesnt automaticly work on the mclaren
I don't think I've ever seen a serrated air intake like this. Is it for real or just some "reflection" again ?
#aerogollumturbof1 wrote: YOU SHALL NOT......STALLLLL!!!
Why should the flow rate not be reduced in this zone and how do you understand that this causes problems?godlameroso wrote: ↑18 Jun 2020, 17:44https://files.catbox.moe/3p7tie.jpg
See how the airflow is braking up in this region? When they fix that, they'll find .2