Scuderia Ferrari SF16-H

[giantfan10]

As far as the front wing being at maximum downforce..... i dont think that would be a valid reason. running more front wing angle would cure that with a drag penalty of course. Red Bull i believe also didnt run a monkey seat.

The problem with just adding front wing angle is that it alters flow to the rear of the car. Adding front wing angle can actually make the rear end lose downforce.

Now it's possible that Ferrari have got better back end aero than Mercedes. It's also possible that Mercedes has a better front end than Ferrari. We'll only know as the season progresses and we see what the teams add/remove from the cars at each race.

somebody has to know the real reason lol

[bhall II]

Because the regulations are so strict these days, and little else on the car visibly changes throughout the course of a season, the monkey seat has become, in my view, the most overhyped aerodynamic component in F1. Adding very little directly in terms of both downforce and drag, it doesn't do much more than help air flow stay attached to the underside of the rear wing. That means its value is more or less proportional to the wing's camber/AoA, and the rear wing on SF16-H isn't quite as aggressive as the one typically used on SF15-T...



That's not to say the car wouldn't benefit from one at some point - and it seems to already be fitted with the necessary mount - just that it's probably pretty low on the agenda, given the significant changes made this year. A monkey seat polishes performance, so to speak, and this car is still being painted.

[Just_a_fan]

I note from your picture that the -16H has a slightly more aggressive roll hoop wing. I wonder if the "double hump" introduced this year in this region needs a bit of help keeping the flow attached.

[bhall II]

I still want to know what the hell that crease does in the first place. It kinda looks as if it works with the airbox wing, allowing the wing to shed larger vortices than would otherwise be the case if bodywork impinged on their development, in order to clean up the eddies that form behind a bluff body such as an engine cover with low-radius curvature along its trailing edge. If so, it would reduce drag and send cleaner air flow to the rear wing.

[giantfan10]

I still want to know what the hell that crease does in the first place. It kinda looks as if it works with the airbox wing, allowing the wing to shed larger vortices than would otherwise be the case if bodywork impinged on their development, in order to clean up the eddies that form behind a bluff body such as an engine cover with low-radius curvature along its trailing edge. If so, it would reduce drag and send cleaner air flow to the rear wing.

http://s23.postimg.org/doths57ij/image.jpg

http://s21.postimg.org/kgmdiu8kn/flowcyl.jpg

http://s29.postimg.org/ldw84do5z/ferrari_2016_side.jpg

It doesnt look like they had to have that dip there based on the ducting below the outer skin..

[henra]

I still want to know what the hell that crease does in the first place. It kinda looks as if it works with the airbox wing, allowing the wing to shed larger vortices than would otherwise be the case if bodywork impinged on their development, in order to clean up the eddies that form behind a bluff body such as an engine cover with low-radius curvature along its trailing edge.

My guess is that it's a bit twofold:
On the one hand they simply shrinkwrapped the outer skin around the internal arrangement. This also dictates length of the airbox.
With that measure they might try to 'virtually shorten' the airbox by creating a downwash significantly in front of where the current airbox normally would allow that, thereby giving the airflow more space to clean up before hitting the RW.

[FW17]

Looks like the ers cooler is in front of the intercooler

[f300v10]

The floor of the SF16-H. You can see a different perspective on the diffusor corner flaps. Also flowing the edge of the sidepod shows how much tighter the rear end packaging is:



Also AMUS reporting the diffusor flap treatment is new:



Hi res:


Previous design here:


It looks like the edge of the diffusor is now less wide than before as the 'foot plate' at the corner is now wider, and the corner flaps appear wider in span.

[Sevach]

Small change to the barge board.

[Stargazer]

There are rumors that Ferrari has updates for the weekend, but keeps them top secret. And the rumors also say that some updates are not really visible.

[zioture]

[turbof1]

I still want to know what the hell that crease does in the first place. It kinda looks as if it works with the airbox wing, allowing the wing to shed larger vortices than would otherwise be the case if bodywork impinged on their development, in order to clean up the eddies that form behind a bluff body such as an engine cover with low-radius curvature along its trailing edge.

My guess is that it's a bit twofold:
On the one hand they simply shrinkwrapped the outer skin around the internal arrangement. This also dictates length of the airbox.
With that measure they might try to 'virtually shorten' the airbox by creating a downwash significantly in front of where the current airbox normally would allow that, thereby giving the airflow more space to clean up before hitting the RW.

I can't see inmediately why shrinkwrapping that specific area would bring its usual associated benefit, as it does not reduce frontal blockage, unlike for instance the area around the side crash structures, where shrinkwrapping around said crash structure reduces blockage of airflow going to the back.

In all honesty, it looks like some sort of dip you see in a golf ball, which keeps airflow more laminar and attached. Perhaps it's even boundary layer related. The airbox and top of the engine cover form a long continious straight piece, which might lead to boundary layer build up. The wing and dip might be an answer to it.

Though admittingly it's as much a guess as anyone else has.

[smhasan7]

No posts, pics even after fp2!!!

[GPR-A duplicate2]

Vettel waiting for more power

Turbo problems at Ferrari
Vettel waiting for more power
Ferrari has shortened the gap to Mercedes over the winter. While Sebastian Vettel and Kimi Raikkonen can not retrieve the full power. They're waiting for new turbochargers. You should come no later than at the GP of Spain. And that could close the gap to Mercedes.

The GPS data provided the first suspicion. Ferrari is on the second half of the line no longer faster. The report of the technical delegate of the FIA from 1 April delivered the second note. It says: Sebastian Vettel and Kimi Raikkonen get a new control unit of the power electronics. And in the second race of the year.

From FIA - Technical Report - Bahrain GP. (Although it is Vandoorne who is driving now, but the PU elements are listed under Alonso's name)

[smhasan7]

Any info on updates Ferrari brought for this weekend. Really strange to see the forum so dry. Just two posts the entire weekend so far.

I'm really curious to see any updates on the car for this weekend.