Red Bull RB7 Renault

[raymondu999]

What are you basing the length on?

[FrukostScones]

Red Bull thermal image shot with FLIR T425 according to German Bild.de

[Formula None]

End of the crash structure looks warm.

[raymondu999]

Are the tyres really that cold? I only see red hot exhausts, then the yellow and the green around the engine cover and crash structure.

[timbo]

End of the crash structure looks warm.

I've seen Ferrari and McLaren with a thermo sticker on a tip of crash structure.
Come to think of it — maybe they are using crash structure as a passive radiator for gearbox?

[Onch]

Thanks Pedro!
I know it is probably not 100% correct, but still a pretty neat overview (click for high-res):
http://imgur.com/Y1kbB

Nice pic. With a bit of photoshopping we can visualize the FW33 gearbox (from what we know based on scarbs earlier illustrations).




Assuming their box is not transverse. Also, total guess that the input shaft would be shorter, but williams seem to be one of the teams without a longer box this year (more vertical pullrods like renault & MB). Also, everything would have to shift forward as the diff is rotated down, to prevent it being behind wheel centerline.

Nice pic and photoshop indeed...

The 'Williams' layout is what I have been used to when I was working for a team...

On the RB, the long shaft between the end of the crank and the clutch/gearbox assy is critical, as there are a *lot* of torsional excitation coming from the engine. This shaft ends up acting like a spring between a big excitation source (the engine) and a big inertia (clutch/gearbox/rear tyres and somehow the car as a whole when the tyres are not spinning), so any resonance in the rev range will quickly lead to big problems. That is probably why the shaft is as thick as the cranshaft main bearings, it could be made much thinner taking only the average torque values into account.

As for the 'why', certainly the long wheelbase is one thing, but this also seems to free up quite a lot of space for the rear dampers.

[Crabbia]

http://img198.imageshack.us/i/vetteltes ... x594f.jpg/

Knowing that photos may fool you, I am not intending to open yet another boring discussion about optical illusions here. That's pretty well done in the Mercedes GP W02 Thread already.

Nevertheless, this shot looks intriguing asymmetrical. I hope all here assembled aerodynamic and technical geniouses will have a close look and clarify. Thx!

im not a aero or tech genius but that my friend is about the best example of a modern mirage ur going to get:)

heat haze is reflecting the sky and making the one side of the underbody look warped.

why the heat haze is assymetrical i wouldnt be able to say for certain but it could have something to do with the shadows the car creates being on the right of the car in the picture.
In other words the shadow of the car is assymetrical so there will be no mirage on the right.

[Crabbia]

Red Bull thermal image shot with FLIR T425 according to German Bild.de

i omitted the picture in my post in the intrest of keeping this thread concise, the original picture is above.

now about that termal image, look at cockpit, on the right hand side of the cockpit, relative to the driver, you can see a little green tube, i wonder what that is.

It must be close to the surface to show up on the FLIR so i was thinking the tubing from the engine to the heat exchangers.

But since it is only on the one side could it be the kers cable, from the battery to the motor?

[tok-tokkie]

Green tube. Water to the radiator?

[FrukostScones]

another one, forgot to post it yesterday, a picture of "Fettle" himself put into the caption comp thread

[bot6]

Wow, I though Vettel was a bit of a hot head, this picture proves me wrong... Bet it would have glown bright red after the crash with Webber last year though!

[Crabbia]

Looking at the second image I think ur right toks. It's the heat exchanger tube. U can clearly see the radiator I. The second image and its green just like the tube in the first image.

Also, looking at the first image again it isn't a perfect plan view. It is slightly tilted to the right. So the roll hoop/ airbox is blocking the view of the pipe on the left hand side relative to the driver. It must be there just not visible.

[FW17]

How did RedBull manage a hole this big next to the rear wheel? Does this area not fall in 90cm zone where no holes are allowed?


2011: No openings allowed in the yellow 90cm zone, outside certain holes are permitted Thanks to Scarbsf1's Blog

[imightbewrong]

Nope, its outside. Furthermore, it's not a hole, its just a different shaped floor!

[raymondu999]

Yup. A hole means you have a donut type thing where there is material around the perimeter of the orifice, but Red Bull goes and does it the other way. There is nothing saying the floor's edges have to be perfect squares/right angles