Chinese GP 2011 - Shanghai

[marcush.]

first of all -when you have a considerable advantage speedwise you don´t start funny things with strategy,why should you?
That´s the case for Webber in Q1 as well as Vettel in Q3 .Webber wrong ...he needed to minimise damage done and Vettel why risk anything with primes?
On the ohter hand ..Had Webber used his first set of Softs in Q1 and a second one to make it into Q3 he would have ended up with only used softs for the race...So the temptation would have been to go for a two stopper.And a race worse than vettels as Vettel had at least one fresh set of softs...haha this year is really fun in terms of
strategy ..and Webbers Q1 on primes could start a trend:
Sacrifice everything for the race ...Try to make it into Q2 with the primes if not thank yyou very much.In q2 go for it on primes again ..if it´s enough well done if not presto 3 sets of softs available.
The interesting bit is to know if it´s gonna be a 2 or three stopper as only with the three stopper it makes sense to gamble just on prime tyres.
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Renault what did they have in mind staying out forever? Heidfeld knows so much about these tyres and beat a dead dog much too long...the pitstop loss on this track is not enough to stay out ...what a fail..

[myurr]

I think in hindsight, Rosberg had the best strategy. His 1st stop was placed in the correct lap for a good 3-stopper, whereas the others seemed to have 1st stints that were too long and 2nd stints that were too short

I think that was because the McLarens were originally aiming for a two stopper, but when they realised three stops would be quicker they adapted their race strategy accordingly. Hence the long first stint and short second stint.

[Pup]

Actually, Button missed his pit call, which about messed up both their races. They were on a three stop from the get go.

[forty-two]

Anyone catch what DC was referring to on the F1 Forum after the Hamitlton interview, when he said to Jake Humphrey "Next time I'll remember to leave my earplug in.......after he [Hamilton] said......"


sAx

No, Actually I watced it back twice and I still don't know exactly what that was all about.

Glad it wasn't just me!

I reckon that when DC was talking with Red Bull's mechanic (just prior), the producers might have been yelling to DC to stop but he didn't have his "peice" in?

[raymondu999]

I think in hindsight, Rosberg had the best strategy. His 1st stop was placed in the correct lap for a good 3-stopper, whereas the others seemed to have 1st stints that were too long and 2nd stints that were too short

I think that was because the McLarens were originally aiming for a two stopper, but when they realised three stops would be quicker they adapted their race strategy accordingly. Hence the long first stint and short second stint.

Whatever the reason may be, it's irrelevant. I'm saying that the end result is that Rosberg had the best 3-stopper

[sAx]

Anyone catch what DC was referring to on the F1 Forum after the Hamitlton interview, when he said to Jake Humphrey "Next time I'll remember to leave my earplug in.......after he [Hamilton] said......"


sAx

No, Actually I watced it back twice and I still don't know exactly what that was all about.

Glad it wasn't just me!

I reckon that when DC was talking with Red Bull's mechanic (just prior), the producers might have been yelling to DC to stop but he didn't have his "peice" in?

Thanks. Possible reference then to RBR mechanic interview re: claim that Button's incursion into RB box was a deliberate act of cheating. Maybe too slanderous for the BBC to cope with. My first thought was that something imprudent had been said by Hamilton. Like you I played it back twice, but was none the wiser.

sAx

[Just_a_fan]

I think in hindsight, Rosberg had the best strategy. His 1st stop was placed in the correct lap for a good 3-stopper, whereas the others seemed to have 1st stints that were too long and 2nd stints that were too short

I think that was because the McLarens were originally aiming for a two stopper, but when they realised three stops would be quicker they adapted their race strategy accordingly. Hence the long first stint and short second stint.

Whatever the reason may be, it's irrelevant. I'm saying that the end result is that Rosberg had the best 3-stopper

Presumably why he won then?

Oh, wait...

[raymondu999]

I'm saying that their strategy was the best, but their fuel issues and the car's overall pace were detrimental to the end result

[djos]

Don't get me wrong he drove fantastically, but to call it one of the all time greats smacks of Red Bull fans and Hamilton haters doing anything they can to take away from his win.

Im not seeing the Hamilton Haters you speak of? Almost everyone here is impressed with both Hamilton and Webber for their never say die drives!

[Tamburello]

but he did not win the start did he? so why the hell did they NOT switch to an agressive pit strategy right on the spot?
Vettel had enough tyres to do this ...and pit signalling with boards is maybe outdated but sure possible even for RedBull and the playstation boy....

KERS and strategy ..my words: they will not win this championship.

The issue was not the start necessarily. He had overtaken both Button and Hamilton by the first round of pit stops so all he had to do was cover their strategy to stay in front of them. I think they must have got worried about Rosberg and Massa and were trying to cover the latter whilst trying to get ahead of the former on strategy??

[ringo]

Yep. It wasn't straight forward.

All in all i have to agree with webber being happy Vettel didn't win this one.
The race would have only seemed like a good mid field squable if Vettel waltzed to the win.

I hope he gets his but kicked again in turkey and the race after that.
21 points is a huge deficit and i think we need things to be a little closer this early in the season.

Well 3 weeks of nothing now.

[Holm86]

Why didnt Massa recive a penalty for crossing the white line at the pit exit???

[ringo]

Because that line was not the border with the track. There is another white line outside of that that runs along the pit straight that merges with that line in question.

[CHT]

Fastest laps:

Webber fastest lap is really quick. I would imaging that if his KERS is working, he would be about 0.2 quicker.

[djos]

Webber fastest lap is really quick. I would imaging that if his KERS is working, he would be about 0.2 quicker.

Webber said he thought it was worth almost 1/2 a second a lap at Shanghi due to the insanely long straights.