2021 Mclaren F1 Team

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Great job by both lads today, only 1,000th’s of a second between them in Q3 is excellent. It shows both drivers got the maximum from the car. I’m really looking forward to the sprint race now!
"In downforce we trust"

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It shows how far the team has come from 2019 where they exploited a situation in Brazil to get a podium to getting podiums and at least second row on merit. The 2022 reset and the budget cap and the fact that we start earlier than ercedes and Red Bull, is our best chance to turn the tables.

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Lets see how Norris fairs next year when they start on equal footing and less car characteristics towards Norris. Not judging Daniel till then. Norris has had a 3 year or more (including sim work) head start with this car philosophy than Dan who has never driven anything like this.

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Take no risks today. Dont get in any fights. A droped place or two is okey, tomorrow we fight hard.

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I really Hope the long running Mclaren have been doing so far is for sunday's race and everyone else around them is simulating for the sprint, times arent anything to write home about, or the soft tyre is a terrible race tyre.

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We have not seen this in a while...

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Sainz destroyed his car in Practise 2.

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runningmanz wrote:
11 Sep 2021, 05:01
billamend wrote:
10 Sep 2021, 19:49
Ground Effect wrote:
10 Sep 2021, 19:40
A bit off topic, but I’m seriously impressed with Gasly, really proving to be moving towards to the top guys. McLaren should keep him as a viable plan B if one of our seats become available, likely from 2023.
I would happily replace Ricciardo with Gasly. The only disadvantage is the marketing appeal
Your kidding right? Gasly got smashed by Max. Ricciardo was the only recent driver who gave Max a run for his money. Dan is coming good and has the runs on the board over many years in many different cars. Not to mention everything else he brings to the team. There is no comparison.

Glad to see him up and about and angry about a few 1/100s in qually. The fire is still there!
I've mentioned this before but you can get rid of Ricciardo but you can't stop paying him. He has a guarantee contract for 3 years. I believe, as a team manager, you could not justify bringing Gasly in.


If you can:
1 - figure away out of Ricciardo's contract.
2 - Convince gasly to come to McLaren.
3 - Guarantee that Gasly (at this point in their careers) is better driver than Ricciardo

Even then, with a change of regulations next year, I still think you'd putting Gasly at a bigger disadvantage and be slower than Ricciardo. Maybe hurt the team as a whole.

Think about it, he has all the same re-adaptations that Riccardo, Vettel, Sainz and Alonzo had this year(New steering wheel, New PU, new team of engineers) but now adding a car that is a complete unknown. Leaving Norris to figure it out by himself.

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mclaren111 wrote:
11 Sep 2021, 12:27
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We have not seen this in a while...
You guys agree with this analysis ?

Ferrari literally scraped into Q3
07 - Antonio Giovinazzi      ALFA       1:20.726
08 - Carlos Sainz            FERRARI    1:20.750
09 - Charles Leclerc         FERRARI    1:20.767
10 - Sergio Perez            RED BULL   1:20.882
11 - Sebastian Vettel        ASTON      1:20.913
Yet by virtue of their Q3 lap times they give them a 2 10th edge over AR and 4 10th over AM.

Track evolution, better laps or was Ferrari holding back in Q2 ? Considering how close Q2 was, I'm not inclined to support holding back.


Think you can make a case for the top 7 holding back but still I think there was a .2 or .3 track evolution/rubbering in from Q2 to Q3 that they're not factoring in.

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Are there any other GPs with the characteristics of Monza that favor engine to help Mclaren over Ferrari?

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Who smuggled that Mercedes logo in the forrest? 😆
If i would get the money to start my own F1 team, i would revive Arrows

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proteus wrote:
11 Sep 2021, 13:44
Who smuggled that Mercedes logo in the forrest? 😆
Antonio managed to get his initials & race number built in the bottom left corner, so it can’t have been that hard 🤣

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While we wait a little bit more for Sprint Qualifying, below you will find a video comparison between Lando’s and Daniel’s Q3 lap… A couple of things that caught my attention:

A) It seems that Lando had an small issue at the second chicane, having to make a quick correction there that may have cost him a bit of time
B) It would seem that Lando had some derating issues in his last lap… You can notice how, even though they have similar acceleration on the back straight towards parabolica, that at certain point Lando’s car stops accelerating, while Daniel continues to increase his speed… They are evenly match up to 325 km/h (at which point Lando’s car stops increasing speed) while Daniel continues to increase his speed to 332 km/h… That right there was P3 for Lando at least.