Lewis Hamilton has won the Canadian GP, making the best of a two stop strategy. Romain Grosjean finished in second place with Sergio Pérez third on the podium. Sebatian Vettel finished fourth after a late pitstop while Fernando Alonso is 5th after struggling to the end on badly worn tyres.
Yep sorry, just seen thatraymondu999 wrote:Yeap - as I stated in my opening post
What undercut, btw?
Self-entitlement. They think they're "in their right" because they are fighting for a good cause. You see it with every protest group, they think they are addressing the most important issue in the world and think they will get the support of everyone regardless what they do.MuseF1 wrote:I can't see why 'anonymous' would do that. they normally target government departments and corporations, i dont understnd why they would suddenly start targeting regular people attending the event. It'd be more like anonymous to target FIA,FOM that sort of thing
Well if you want to talk about updates, Merc introduced a significant update (in Monaco) which seemed to work very well.Crucial_Xtreme wrote:If they were racing in Canada today I would say we would probably see a Mercedes or Lotus on the pole with Lewis just behind them. But they're not. Lots of teams are bringing updates to Montreal so I honestly think it's impossible to know who will start P1.
I think it's a safe bet the aforementioned teams will be there, but McLaren could bring a large update that puts them ahead of Mercedes and Lotus. Ferrari could bring a package that puts them in serious contention. Sauber & Williams too. It's all about the developments and how much they improve the car. I just think nothings set in stone obviously and while Merc & Lotus will more than likely be two of the fastest cars, the updates from some of the others could surprise us.
+1raymondu999 wrote:
Mind you the pitstop undercut issue might not even be necessary around Canada. It's quite a circuit for overtaking, so I think generally if you have pace, you'll overtake. I suspect most teams will just go for their quickest theoretical race rather than covering pitstops etc, unless you're someone like Red Bull and have a massive straightline deficit.
In Spain, Ferrari were only 1 kmph off the Mercedes top speed in qualifying, and 3mph off the Macs. I think top speed has improved and hopefully will improve further with the package we bring to Montreal. Red Bull is the one who has the particularly low speed trap figures, but they seemed to have figured out a good low downforce configuration last year (something they were not able to do in 2010), so again we will have to wait and see what kind of package they bring.raymondu999 wrote:To memory, Lotus and Mercedes have had the quickest speedtrap figures all the way through, so could be strong here. While the McLaren apparently hasn't got great mechanical grip, it has a great front end - you can see that from Lewis' and even Jenson's on boards, and that's definitely a boon in short slow corners - you could just twist the car quickly and power out, and I think McLaren will be very strong here - and probably Lewis+McLaren will be the package to beat.
Ferrari and Red Bull have somewhat rubbish speedtrap figures - but I'm not too sure on writing them off. After all Vettel and Alonso were the front row sitters last year.
I think Felipe could be on for a good result - he was strong last year in qualifying and the race.
I wouldn't bet on Maldonado, but I'm seriously considering betting for the first time, for Mercedes to win the race. Their updates look very promising, they do have a fast car and they seem to have sorted out the tyres. I don't think Ferrari will be there yet, and Kimi needs to up his game in qualifying to make a chance. I'm sorry, but I don't see McLaren being in serious contention, it's incredible to see them being so complacent for the last few races, both in the factory, in testing and on the pit wall.dren wrote:Merc's DDRS should give them more of an edge in Canada. That coupled with their new updates should put them in contention for the win. I expect Lotus to be in the mix along with Ferrari. It's hard telling where Mclaren will end up. Perhaps Maldonado will be up there too.
You don't see Ferrari being where yet? In contention? I think it's clear the Mugello/Spain updates really improved the F2012 and on any given weekend it's right there with the best of them on Sunday. The one lap pace of the F2012 is lacking for sure compared to some of the others, but on Sunday the race pace is equal to the best. Considering all of their updates so far have added performance to the car, I don't think Canada will be any different and expect them to be in contention for a podium spot. Just my opinion.Speedster wrote:
I wouldn't bet on Maldonado, but I'm seriously considering betting for the first time, for Mercedes to win the race. Their updates look very promising, they do have a fast car and they seem to have sorted out the tyres. I don't think Ferrari will be there yet, and Kimi needs to up his game in qualifying to make a chance. I'm sorry, but I don't see McLaren being in serious contention, it's incredible to see them being so complacent for the last few races, both in the factory, in testing and on the pit wall.
