The FIA has officially confirmed that none of the 22 F1 cars present at Hockenheim for this weekend's German Grand Prix are fitted with a front to rear interlinked suspension system.
They have had FRIC on their car from the word go...mikeerfol wrote:Marussia?FoxHound wrote:
I think Bernie has found his team to vote for the change. And my guess is they flounder at the back of the grid.
The question is, whose is not as good as it could be?PhillipM wrote:They have had FRIC on their car from the word go...mikeerfol wrote:Marussia?FoxHound wrote:
I think Bernie has found his team to vote for the change. And my guess is they flounder at the back of the grid.
The question is... why are the current cars illegal? What specifically makes them violate the rules.Cam wrote:Illegal is illegal - what, so now there is wriggle room? Interesting to see the range of opinions when the rules turn-about-face on another team that's dominating.
Does it matter? Has it ever mattered? The precedence is that the strict wording of the regulations can be altered by the FIA's definition. Regardless of what was 'understood' by the rules at any given time, the FIA can (and does) change it's mind.beelsebob wrote:The question is... why are the current cars illegal? What specifically makes them violate the rules.Cam wrote:Illegal is illegal - what, so now there is wriggle room? Interesting to see the range of opinions when the rules turn-about-face on another team that's dominating.
This thing is done. One team has the card. They may not play it - but they'll want something pretty special in return.If unanimous support is not reached, then Whiting has made it clear that from the next race in Germany, any team running FRIC risks being reported to the stewards by the FIA for non-compliance with the regulations.
The fact that the FIA has indicated it believes FRIC to be illegal also opens the door for a team to protest one of its rivals from the next race.
It has asked teams to vote on whether or not they will be in favour of delaying the ban until the start of 2015 rather than it coming into force for the German GP.
However, for that to happen it would require unanimous support from all the teams on the grid.
Yep, I stand corrected. I was only remembering the upper arm without noticing the lower arm had same angle.Tim.Wright wrote:A quick look at the Caterham suggests that they have pro-dive on their front suspension, so I'd expect the ban to kick them hard in the balls.
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The control arms are largely parallel and slope down to the back of the car so this would put the IC below the ground which means negative anti dive.
Why are you apologising? Are you being facetious? Most of us are adult enough to allow both forms of discussion, simultaneously. Where's the harm in that?bill shoe wrote:Anyway, sorry for bringing technical issues into a discussion about an FIA political ploy.
MrE wrote:Don't sit down at a poker game if you can't ante up.
That would be a first, no?FoxHound wrote:[...]
Or...common sense prevails and they wait until next year.
Yes, I also think it is more than hobbling. I think this is a ploy by Ferrari or Redbull to try to single out in the most legal, way (without having to spy) where Mercedes is getting their speed from and doing that by starting with their suspension. It's is a devious but very clever move. Imagine the FRICS banned in Germany and Mercedes are back down to earth running 2 tenths slower than the RedBulls! Horner would be like: AHA! that's where you silver livered crooks get your 2 seconds a lap!Cam wrote:Beautiful. Why would any team not vote that down. A massive change like this could level the field, what do you have to loose - unless you're Mercedes. I'd theorise someone has been sitting on this for a while, just waiting to play the card if they weren't performing. With Merc clearly 2 seconds a lap faster - what else can the teams do?
Remember, when you can't find performance on the track, you can find it in the court rooms - by hobbling others.
