That or everything stays in place, with FOM not having to pay Marussia's place.Richard wrote:Surely Marussia will forfeit their place so the teams below move up?
Red, what else?Sevach wrote:I'm curious to what kind of helmet Vettel will have this weekend.
Bernie was saying that "nothing" would happen to Marussia's prize money if they don't appear at Yas Marina. The way I interpret that is that it would stay in CVC's bank account.Richard wrote:Surely Marussia will forfeit their prize money so the teams below move up a place in the prize money calls?
There was a rumor that Bernie was mad because he rather Caterham not comepte because then they keep that money thats why im cheering for Caterham..turbof1 wrote:That or everything stays in place, with FOM not having to pay Marussia's place.Richard wrote:Surely Marussia will forfeit their place so the teams below move up?
Isn't this ridiculous? Why suddenly ban an interteam rule solely for the last race, when it quite obviously holds only a single objective - to harm Lewis' chances of claiming the world championship. As a company Mercedes should want a 1-2, this will break the record for the number of 1-2 finishes in a season. There have been times throughout the season that both Nico and Lewis have benefitted from this rule, so why should they ban it for the last race. It's basically like saying to Lewis - if you fall behind through any means, whether it be a bad pit stop, a safety car, being unlucky, etc, we're not going to allow you to use the maximum engine setting. If this doesn't cry out as to who they're favouring then I don't know what does.One rule of 2014 may be suspended for Abu Dhabi, Wolff admitted.
"One of our rules is that we have always wanted to finish first and second if we can," he said.
"If one of the two has fallen back, we have given him a more aggressive engine setting so that he can come back as soon as possible to position two."
Germany's Kolner Express newspaper said this is the rule that may be suspended for Abu Dhabi, so that both drivers are always at the wheel of the same engine strategy.
Toto Wolf is a business man and he (together with Daimler) invested a lot of money in hiring Lewis to become world champion. The international value of him becoming WC is much bigger then if Nico becomes WC (at the end, it's all about the money). For marketing reasons this is a great scenario for Mercedes, they can build up to an epic battle for the WC, but Nico prob already had the call from Lauda, Mercedes bosses and maybe even Toto: Lewis is going to be WC.tranquility2k4 wrote:I have a slight conspiracy theory going on about Toto Wolff and his wish for Nico Rosberg to win the title this year.
Over the past few races, whenever Toto has been interviewed after qualifying or the race, his mood and demeanour have been in stark contrast depending on whether it has been Nico or Lewis who has come out victorious.
Most notably, he was incredibly jubilant after qualifying at Austin, congratulating Nico on his performance, visibly brimming with happiness. Following the race, when Lewis had come out victourious, his reactions came accross in a starkly opposite way. I don't remember him smiling at all and rather than spend time congratulating Lewis on a brilliant comeback drive, he just wanted to make excuses and keep on reminding the TV crew on how Nico was much faster than Lewis in qualifying and how Lewis didn't have the pace even without brake problems. If he had no favourite, why would he care who won?
Come Brazil, of course Nico was the victor in all sessions. Toto's mood after the race was of great happiness, laughing and smiling after Nico had won, and when put to him how Lewis had more pace, Toto seemed to want to play this down and to make a point that Nico had it under control, etc.
Further to this, in the media - following Austin and ever since, there has regulary been articles released with Toto talking about the tragedy that it would be for one of the drivers to lose the title due to a technical glitch. He's also noted how he fears that the 'double-points' rule at the last race could overshadow the season. When reading into some of this, it somewhat struck me that there was at least a genuine chance that these were messages being filtered into the media to cover his back in the event of this happening. Should Lewis have a technical glitch in the last race - Toto has been on record for weeks talking about how terrible this would be, so how can any conspiracy come his way? He has been talking about it so much that it has almost become absurd.
The final nail in the coffin then comes today (http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/berge ... 014-title/):
Isn't this ridiculous? Why suddenly ban an interteam rule solely for the last race, when it quite obviously holds only a single objective - to harm Lewis' chances of claiming the world championship. As a company Mercedes should want a 1-2, this will break the record for the number of 1-2 finishes in a season. There have been times throughout the season that both Nico and Lewis have benefitted from this rule, so why should they ban it for the last race. It's basically like saying to Lewis - if you fall behind through any means, whether it be a bad pit stop, a safety car, being unlucky, etc, we're not going to allow you to use the maximum engine setting. If this doesn't cry out as to who they're favouring then I don't know what does.One rule of 2014 may be suspended for Abu Dhabi, Wolff admitted.
"One of our rules is that we have always wanted to finish first and second if we can," he said.
"If one of the two has fallen back, we have given him a more aggressive engine setting so that he can come back as soon as possible to position two."
Germany's Kolner Express newspaper said this is the rule that may be suspended for Abu Dhabi, so that both drivers are always at the wheel of the same engine strategy.
I have always liked Toto, and felt he has been pretty fair throughout the season to both drivers, but recently, I just feel something strange is going on. It could be that he simply wants Nico to win; it could be that they helped out Lewis by harming Nico following Spa and he's afraid if Nico loses the title that this will come out; it could be that he wants to upset Lewis such that he will leave and they can hire Fernando Alonso; ...it could of course all be in my head.
Let's wait and see what happens on Sunday - but if something funny goes on, be sure to keep an eye on Toto's reactions!
I stopped reading at this stage but i bet this theory doesn't include Hamilton being consistently slower in qualifying, making mistakes in races and "servicing substance contamination" basically deciding the championship.tranquility2k4 wrote:I have a slight conspiracy theory going on about Toto Wolff and his wish for Nico Rosberg to win the title this year.
Oh and not screwing up from behind, like in Spa?iotar__ wrote:"servicing substance contamination" basically deciding the championship.tranquility2k4 wrote:I have a slight conspiracy theory going on about Toto Wolff and his wish for Nico Rosberg to win the title this year.
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[quote="tranquility2k4"]I have a slight conspiracy theory going on about Toto Wolff and his wish for Nico Rosberg to win the title this year.
Over the past few races, whenever Toto has been interviewed after qualifying or the race, his mood and demeanour have been in stark contrast depending on whether it has been Nico or Lewis who has come out victorious.
Most notably, he was incredibly jubilant after qualifying at Austin, congratulating Nico on his performance, visibly brimming with happiness. Following the race, when Lewis had come out victourious, his reactions came accross in a starkly opposite way. I don't remember him smiling at all and rather than spend time congratulating Lewis on a brilliant comeback drive, he just wanted to make excuses and keep on reminding the TV crew on how Nico was much faster than Lewis in qualifying and how Lewis didn't have the pace even without brake problems. If he had no favourite, why would he care who won?
Come Brazil, of course Nico was the victor in all sessions. Toto's mood after the race was of great happiness, laughing and smiling after Nico had won, and when put to him how Lewis had more pace, Toto seemed to want to play this down and to make a point that Nico had it under control, etc.
Further to this, in the media - following Austin and ever since, there has regulary been articles released with Toto talking about the tragedy that it would be for one of the drivers to lose the title due to a technical glitch. He's also noted how he fears that the 'double-points' rule at the last race could overshadow the season. When reading into some of this, it somewhat struck me that there was at least a genuine chance that these were messages being filtered into the media to cover his back in the event of this happening. Should Lewis have a technical glitch in the last race - Toto has been on record for weeks talking about how terrible this would be, so how can any conspiracy come his way? He has been talking about it so much that it has almost become absurd.
The final nail in the coffin then comes today (http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/berger-tips-hamilton-to-win-2014-title/):
[quote]One rule of 2014 may be suspended for Abu Dhabi, Wolff admitted.
"One of our rules is that we have always wanted to finish first and second if we can," he said.
"If one of the two has fallen back, we have given him a more aggressive engine setting so that he can come back as soon as possible to position two."
Germany's Kolner Express newspaper said this is the rule that may be suspended for Abu Dhabi, so that both drivers are always at the wheel of the same engine strategy.[/quote]
Isn't this ridiculous? Why suddenly ban an interteam rule solely for the last race, when it quite obviously holds only a single objective - to harm Lewis' chances of claiming the world championship. As a company Mercedes should want a 1-2, this will break the record for the number of 1-2 finishes in a season. There have been times throughout the season that both Nico and Lewis have benefitted from this rule, so why should they ban it for the last race. It's basically like saying to Lewis - if you fall behind through any means, whether it be a bad pit stop, a safety car, being unlucky, etc, we're not going to allow you to use the maximum engine setting. If this doesn't cry out as to who they're favouring then I don't know what does.
I have always liked Toto, and felt he has been pretty fair throughout the season to both drivers, but recently, I just feel something strange is going on. It could be that he simply wants Nico to win; it could be that they helped out Lewis by harming Nico following Spa and he's afraid if Nico loses the title that this will come out; it could be that he wants to upset Lewis such that he will leave and they can hire Fernando Alonso; ...it could of course all be in my head.
Let's wait and see what happens on Sunday - but if something funny goes on, be sure to keep an eye on Toto's reactions![/quote]