2022 British Grand Prix - Silverstone, July 01 - 03

For ease of use, there is one thread per grand prix where you can discuss everything during that specific GP weekend. You can find these threads here.
User avatar
nico5
21
Joined: 12 Mar 2017, 18:55

Re: 2022 British Grand Prix - Silverstone, July 01 - 03

Post

dialtone wrote:
28 Jun 2022, 07:32

Perez was 2.4s ahead of Lec, that's far enough that it's no effect whatsoever. I've already analysed this from Miami (but you can get the same identical data in many other races) and posted the data on this in the aero section of this forum. These new cars have absolutely zero tow beyond 2 seconds, and it's minimal after 1.5s, that's what you get from making it easier to follow. Every driver commented on this during pre-season testing and the data backs it out.
I'm with you on the difference being minimal between Ferrari and RB, but no tow beyond two second is not true. e.g. Leclerc Q2 v pole lap in Barcelona (6kph, 0.1s) or Max v Perez in Baku (6kph w big (~2.5s) tow and 3kph w small (5s) tow to Perez w/o tow). The difference is still there. Not massive in qualy but certainly a factor in Max not being able to overtake CL in Baku. With no Perez out front it would have been a walk in the park.

dialtone
dialtone
121
Joined: 25 Feb 2019, 01:31

Re: 2022 British Grand Prix - Silverstone, July 01 - 03

Post

nico5 wrote:
28 Jun 2022, 14:49
dialtone wrote:
28 Jun 2022, 07:32

Perez was 2.4s ahead of Lec, that's far enough that it's no effect whatsoever. I've already analysed this from Miami (but you can get the same identical data in many other races) and posted the data on this in the aero section of this forum. These new cars have absolutely zero tow beyond 2 seconds, and it's minimal after 1.5s, that's what you get from making it easier to follow. Every driver commented on this during pre-season testing and the data backs it out.
I'm with you on the difference being minimal between Ferrari and RB, but no tow beyond two second is not true. e.g. Leclerc Q2 v pole lap in Barcelona (6kph, 0.1s) or Max v Perez in Baku (6kph w big (~2.5s) tow and 3kph w small (5s) tow to Perez w/o tow). The difference is still there. Not massive in qualy but certainly a factor in Max not being able to overtake CL in Baku. With no Perez out front it would have been a walk in the park.
Image

Here you go, there's basically no difference whatsoever in speed in a lap from LEC behind PER v alone in front.

Pany
Pany
3
Joined: 09 Mar 2016, 10:26

Re: 2022 British Grand Prix - Silverstone, July 01 - 03

Post

It takes time to win titles. It was like that with shumy in ferrari, alonso in renault, hamilton in mercedes and vettel in redbull, also verstappen. Is normal
Evo2racer wrote:
28 Jun 2022, 09:13
chrisc90 wrote:
27 Jun 2022, 13:23
Wonder how many disappointed Mercedes’ fans there will be after this weekend

I think there’s a bit more to it than just the track surface.

Guess we’ll see come FP1
There will be many more Ferrari fans disappointed for sure.

MB and Sir LH fans already know that RB will win both titles this year.

However for Ferrari fans it will be a much more difficult pill to swallow having the fastest car and not winning a single title!

Anyway, like you said let’s wait for FP…

Roman
Roman
1
Joined: 05 Oct 2014, 22:34

Re: 2022 British Grand Prix - Silverstone, July 01 - 03

Post

The race seems to be dry (at least Saturday and Sunday) but rather cold (20° C). Could be detrimental to all teams who have problems warming up their tires, at least in Q

sosic2121
sosic2121
13
Joined: 08 Jun 2016, 12:14

Re: 2022 British Grand Prix - Silverstone, July 01 - 03

Post

Roman wrote:
29 Jun 2022, 10:26
The race seems to be dry (at least Saturday and Sunday) but rather cold (20° C). Could be detrimental to all teams who have problems warming up their tires, at least in Q
At least ferrari won't explode. Again. Hopefully [-o<

maxxer
maxxer
1
Joined: 13 May 2013, 12:01

Re: 2022 British Grand Prix - Silverstone, July 01 - 03

Post

sosic2121 wrote:
29 Jun 2022, 12:16
Roman wrote:
29 Jun 2022, 10:26
The race seems to be dry (at least Saturday and Sunday) but rather cold (20° C). Could be detrimental to all teams who have problems warming up their tires, at least in Q
At least ferrari won't explode. Again. Hopefully [-o<

If not they will mess up strategy wise

sosic2121
sosic2121
13
Joined: 08 Jun 2016, 12:14

Re: 2022 British Grand Prix - Silverstone, July 01 - 03

Post

maxxer wrote:
29 Jun 2022, 12:24
sosic2121 wrote:
29 Jun 2022, 12:16
Roman wrote:
29 Jun 2022, 10:26
The race seems to be dry (at least Saturday and Sunday) but rather cold (20° C). Could be detrimental to all teams who have problems warming up their tires, at least in Q
At least ferrari won't explode. Again. Hopefully [-o<

If not they will mess up strategy wise
LOL
That's always a possibility.

Maybe we'll have some extremely good racing between Max and Charles.

User avatar
langedweil
0
Joined: 23 Mar 2018, 20:51
Location: Caribbean

Re: 2022 British Grand Prix - Silverstone, July 01 - 03

Post

sosic2121 wrote:
29 Jun 2022, 12:29
maxxer wrote:
29 Jun 2022, 12:24
sosic2121 wrote:
29 Jun 2022, 12:16

At least ferrari won't explode. Again. Hopefully [-o<

If not they will mess up strategy wise
LOL
That's always a possibility.

Maybe we'll have some extremely good racing between Max and Charles.
Or Max, Charles, George, Checo, Carlos, Lewis, Seb and Lando ...
HuggaWugga !

erudite450
erudite450
1
Joined: 14 Mar 2019, 13:50

Re: 2022 British Grand Prix - Silverstone, July 01 - 03

Post

There could be scattered showers on Saturday. I hope not though. It'd be interesting to see the real performance of the different cars.

User avatar
Mr5in1
0
Joined: 20 Jul 2012, 11:33

Re: 2022 British Grand Prix - Silverstone, July 01 - 03

Post

Love Silverstone, went to my first race in 01 and been back a few more times,in 2019 I had general admission tickets and watched from Luffield and on Friday got round all the grandstands, watching from Beckett's and into maggots was ace.

This weekend though I suspect RBR to maintain the edge here with Merc maybe a little closer to Ferrari in the race, like to see McLaren do well but suspect 4th fastest will be Alpine.

User avatar
Sieper
73
Joined: 14 Mar 2017, 15:19

Re: 2022 British Grand Prix - Silverstone, July 01 - 03

Post

Alpine expects a lot from their floor, let’s see.

User avatar
chrisc90
41
Joined: 23 Feb 2022, 21:22

Re: 2022 British Grand Prix - Silverstone, July 01 - 03

Post

This is where we see copies of the RB floor pop up with slight twists.
Someone said Wiliams upgrades expect 1 second gain. That should be good to see come FP1
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

User avatar
chrisc90
41
Joined: 23 Feb 2022, 21:22

Re: 2022 British Grand Prix - Silverstone, July 01 - 03

Post

http://www.gptoday.com/full_story/view/ ... le_tweaks/

Not sure if these reg changes are in effect from this GP.
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

User avatar
ispano6
153
Joined: 09 Mar 2017, 23:56
Location: my playseat

Re: 2022 British Grand Prix - Silverstone, July 01 - 03

Post

chrisc90 wrote:
29 Jun 2022, 23:21
http://www.gptoday.com/full_story/view/ ... le_tweaks/

Not sure if these reg changes are in effect from this GP.
So basically allowing the other teams to get closer to Red Bull? Some of the articles on the engine rule change is contradictory. It's being stated that a new specification can be fitted BETWEEN qualifying and the race. Surely that is a misinterpretation of the rules change? How can there be a new specification if the ICE is homologated? And what of allowance and penalties? And if the main plane of the rear wing is allowed more vertical movement but the beam wing isn't, doesn't this INCREASE costs for teams to now have to comply with a changing rule-set mid season?

User avatar
langedweil
0
Joined: 23 Mar 2018, 20:51
Location: Caribbean

Re: 2022 British Grand Prix - Silverstone, July 01 - 03

Post

chrisc90 wrote:
29 Jun 2022, 23:21
http://www.gptoday.com/full_story/view/ ... le_tweaks/

Not sure if these reg changes are in effect from this GP.
Hmm ... as ispano says, this is slightly odd. Or do I miss something ?
With an eye on the number of engine-related DNFs this season, from this weekend a power unit can be replaced in parc ferme with one of a newer specification, providing it is already in the driver's pool, while a provision has been made to allow temporary repairs.
Until now, changes of specification of engine components replaced in parc ferme meant the driver was forced to start the race from the pitlane.
That new specification, is that just poor wording ?
Last edited by langedweil on 30 Jun 2022, 16:25, edited 1 time in total.
HuggaWugga !