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Wouter wrote:
27 Sep 2023, 16:45
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27 Sep 2023, 16:27
Wouter wrote:
27 Sep 2023, 16:21

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Could you quote where that is written? I can't find it. This is an old article recycled from the Talking Bull Podcast.
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Can't find it now - maybe a deleted article? Motorsport.com, a better source, have said similar things already

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/ricc ... /10523492/
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The link you posted is still working and that article still exists.
"racingnews365.nl/ricciardo-beschrijft-meest-uitdagende-moment-uit-f1-carriere"
The Motorsport article is from September 22. So 5 days old and speculating about the Lawson/Ricciardo case.
At that moment Ricciardo was in Australia and didn't give an update about his condition.
Found it

https://racingnews365.nl/wat-de-nieuwe- ... r-red-bull
RacingNews365 has learned that the New Zealander will also play in Qatar, because Ricciardo's complicated hand fracture will require more recovery time. Lawson can simply participate in this race, but he can also become champion in the Super Formula championship, where he has been parked by Red Bull to gain experience.

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organic wrote:
27 Sep 2023, 19:00
Wouter wrote:
27 Sep 2023, 16:45
organic wrote:
27 Sep 2023, 16:27
Can't find it now - maybe a deleted article? Motorsport.com, a better source, have said similar things already

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/ricc ... /10523492/
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The link you posted is still working and that article still exists.
"racingnews365.nl/ricciardo-beschrijft-meest-uitdagende-moment-uit-f1-carriere"
The Motorsport article is from September 22. So 5 days old and speculating about the Lawson/Ricciardo case.
At that moment Ricciardo was in Australia and didn't give an update about his condition.
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Found it

https://racingnews365.nl/wat-de-nieuwe- ... r-red-bull
RacingNews365 has learned that the New Zealander will also play in Qatar, because Ricciardo's complicated hand fracture will require more recovery time. Lawson can simply participate in this race, but he can also become champion in the Super Formula championship, where he has been parked by Red Bull to gain experience.
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Thanks. I had not read that article because every site reported on de Vries. :roll:
I like that Liam is going to drive in Qatar. I don't see Ricciardo driving again in Cota yet either. Then it will be just under 8 weeks
since the surgery and that would be very fast for multiple fractures in one bone. Besides, Liam is available until Mexico
because that weekend there is Super Formula again and it would be nice if he becomes champion there.
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Danny is done for the year, for sure.

Expect Liam to finish the season.

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27 Sep 2023, 19:00
Found it

https://racingnews365.nl/wat-de-nieuwe- ... r-red-bull
RacingNews365 has learned that the New Zealander will also play in Qatar, because Ricciardo's complicated hand fracture will require more recovery time. Lawson can simply participate in this race, but he can also become champion in the Super Formula championship, where he has been parked by Red Bull to gain experience.
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It seems that Horner said something different at Sky and that they want to wait for the simulator results first.
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Ricciardo return for Qatar 'less likely than likely'

Ricciardo is currently sidelined from racing with AlphaTauri while he recovers from the broken bone in his hand that he sustained in an accident at the Dutch GP on August 25.

The Australian has missed the last three full race weekends as a result, with Lawson filling in. ( not three but four)

"I would say probably less likely than likely at the moment," Horner said when asked if Ricciardo would return in Qatar.

"His recuperation is going well but he's fixed in the seat for next year, does he need to rush a hasty return for Qatar where maybe another couple of weeks for Austin, which is a hell of a bumpy circuit anyway, it might be better to use that time in preparation for Austin.

"I know he's got his sights fixed on Qatar, he'll drive the simulator next week and then we'll make some decisions based on that."
https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433 ... ury-update
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Wouter wrote:
28 Sep 2023, 08:46
organic wrote:
27 Sep 2023, 19:00
Found it

https://racingnews365.nl/wat-de-nieuwe- ... r-red-bull
RacingNews365 has learned that the New Zealander will also play in Qatar, because Ricciardo's complicated hand fracture will require more recovery time. Lawson can simply participate in this race, but he can also become champion in the Super Formula championship, where he has been parked by Red Bull to gain experience.
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It seems that Horner said something different at Sky and that they want to wait for the simulator results first.
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Ricciardo return for Qatar 'less likely than likely'

Ricciardo is currently sidelined from racing with AlphaTauri while he recovers from the broken bone in his hand that he sustained in an accident at the Dutch GP on August 25.

The Australian has missed the last three full race weekends as a result, with Lawson filling in. ( not three but four)

"I would say probably less likely than likely at the moment," Horner said when asked if Ricciardo would return in Qatar.

"His recuperation is going well but he's fixed in the seat for next year, does he need to rush a hasty return for Qatar where maybe another couple of weeks for Austin, which is a hell of a bumpy circuit anyway, it might be better to use that time in preparation for Austin.

"I know he's got his sights fixed on Qatar, he'll drive the simulator next week and then we'll make some decisions based on that."
https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433 ... ury-update
Same as what ricciardo has now said

https://www.perthnow.com.au/cke86ixlz01 ... c-12041213
Ricciardo: “That’s kind of my first [sim] test really to see where I’m at and simply make a call from there. I definitely want to be out there in… call it the next few weeks, that’s the plan. Probably early next week I should know.”

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I wonder how the opoids needed for the pain of that injury effects his driving. I was on 4 percocet a day for 3 months when I had this injury...

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Scuderia AlphaTauri. 29 sep 2023
Back on familiar grounds, Yuki had the chance to show teammate Liam around Tokyo before our most recent race in Japan.
From cooking, to the Red Bull Japan game show, there was even a chance to learn a little Japanese.
Enjoy our latest episode of "All Access" and go behind the scenes of an action packed week at Yuki's home race.
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Wouter wrote:
25 Sep 2023, 11:15
djos wrote:
25 Sep 2023, 09:21
Wouter wrote:
25 Sep 2023, 07:58

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Horner is talking about AFTER 2024 and "we 'll see how Daniel does; we’ll see how Yuki does and in the background we’ll see
what Liam’s capable of in the test-and-reserve role [in 2024 at AlphaTauri]".

Which part don't you understand? Horner talks about 2025 all the time.
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If you believe that Checo will be driving for RedBull next year, I have a nice bridge to sell you.
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I don't know if Perez will still be at RBR next year but Ricciardo certainly won't!

Norris scored a total of 122 points in 2022 and Ricciardo 37 points in his 12th year! in F1..🙈
Piastri, a rookie, already has 57 points. First year in F1 and now already more points than Ricciardo in a whole year!!

It is not without reason that Ricciardo's contract was terminated a year earlier!
If they have to find a replacement for Perez in 2024, it will certainly not be Ricciardo.
Pretty silly statements to make imo based off one stint in a clearly odd car philosophy at McLaren. Ricciardo and both Red Bull and AT have said he already feels more comfortable driving their cars then he ever did at McLaren. Dans former engineer Simon Rennie said when he came back to Red Bull his driving style was completely unrecognisable from what they knew. He basically had to unlearn everything and start again. Let that sink in.

After a few goes in the RBR sim he got better until as Simon put it he was back to his old self. It also translated to the track in the Pirelli test where within about 11 laps or so he was setting times in the same ballpark as Max and Checo and what they said would have been good enough for front row start at the Silverstone F1 GP. This was on a green track too and they were testing without tyre warmers. A very impressive test indeed.

As for AT he has also had nothing but praise from the team for how with barely a couple of hours in the car he was straight on the pace at Hungary beating Yuki and his feedback at setting up and helping develop the car has been invaluable.

There is no way when you take all this into consideration including how well he is loved at RBR and now AT that he is not a very good shot at getting the second RBR seat back imo sooner rather than later if Checo keeps imploding.

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First rumours I've heard of this but something to keep an eye on. Sky sports Germany reporting on it

https://sport.sky.de/formel1/artikel/fo ... 0153/35311
Formula 1: Adidas soon to be AlphaTauri's title sponsor?

Will sporting goods giant be AlphaTauri's new title sponsor?

The sporting goods company Adidas is reportedly to become the new title sponsor of the Formula 1 team Alpha Tauri. Red Bull's sister racing team has also been repeatedly linked to the fashion company Hugo Boss.

Recently, the Swiss tabloid Blick, among others, reported that the new name sponsor of Alpha Tauri is likely to be Adidas, the company from Herzogenaurach. "As a matter of principle, we do not participate in speculation," a spokesperson for Adidas told the Deutsche Presse-Agentur when asked.

On the grid as AlphaTauri since 2020

The former Toro Rosso team has been competing in the premier class of motorsport as Alpha Tauri since the 2020 season. However, the junior team has not been particularly successful since 2022. Red Bull has announced that the sister team will have a new name from 2024.

The new Adidas boss Björn Gulden had increased the involvement of the sporting goods rival in Formula 1 during his time as CEO of Puma.

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runningmanz wrote:
30 Sep 2023, 02:54
Wouter wrote:
25 Sep 2023, 11:15
djos wrote:
25 Sep 2023, 09:21

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If you believe that Checo will be driving for RedBull next year, I have a nice bridge to sell you.
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I don't know if Perez will still be at RBR next year but Ricciardo certainly won't!

Norris scored a total of 122 points in 2022 and Ricciardo 37 points in his 12th year! in F1..🙈
Piastri, a rookie, already has 57 points. First year in F1 and now already more points than Ricciardo in a whole year!!

It is not without reason that Ricciardo's contract was terminated a year earlier!
If they have to find a replacement for Perez in 2024, it will certainly not be Ricciardo.
Pretty silly statements to make imo based off one stint in a clearly odd car philosophy at McLaren. Ricciardo and both Red Bull and AT have said he already feels more comfortable driving their cars then he ever did at McLaren. Dans former engineer Simon Rennie said when he came back to Red Bull his driving style was completely unrecognisable from what they knew. He basically had to unlearn everything and start again. Let that sink in.

After a few goes in the RBR sim he got better until as Simon put it he was back to his old self. It also translated to the track in the Pirelli test where within about 11 laps or so he was setting times in the same ballpark as Max and Checo and what they said would have been good enough for front row start at the Silverstone F1 GP. This was on a green track too and they were testing without tyre warmers. A very impressive test indeed.

As for AT he has also had nothing but praise from the team for how with barely a couple of hours in the car he was straight on the pace at Hungary beating Yuki and his feedback at setting up and helping develop the car has been invaluable.

There is no way when you take all this into consideration including how well he is loved at RBR and now AT that he is not a very good shot at getting the second RBR seat back imo sooner rather than later if Checo keeps imploding.
I'd caution about Dan being able to just slot back in at Red Bull when Checo is moved aside. I'm pretty cautious now about an experienced F1 pilot who couldn't unravel the mysteries of the McLaren that Sainz, Norris and now Piastri could. What confidence then in Dan being able to tame a tricky Red Bull that Max the magician gets sorted at almost every track. Also that Daniel appeared to quickly get up to a level that challenged Yuki, no longer looks a great achievement when an F1 rookie is able to perform at a similar level, and that's not on a Piastri level! It will take a proper trouncing of Yuki at AT for Dan to convince the Red Bull barons that he is back to being a top 4 F1 driver and deserves a seat alongside the World Champion. None of this from me speaks about not wanting Dan to excel (surely we would love to see more truly excellent drivers on the grid), it's just that it looks somehow that the world has moved on and Dan is little more than a midfielder now.

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Someone incorrectly a correct statement. It was stated that Ricciardo missed three full race weekend. Some wrote 4 not 3. It’s three “full weekends” Monza, Singapore and Japan. Ricciardo actually participating in the Dutch GP when he suffered his injury.
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BMMR61 wrote:
30 Sep 2023, 07:08
runningmanz wrote:
30 Sep 2023, 02:54
Wouter wrote:
25 Sep 2023, 11:15

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I don't know if Perez will still be at RBR next year but Ricciardo certainly won't!

Norris scored a total of 122 points in 2022 and Ricciardo 37 points in his 12th year! in F1..🙈
Piastri, a rookie, already has 57 points. First year in F1 and now already more points than Ricciardo in a whole year!!

It is not without reason that Ricciardo's contract was terminated a year earlier!
If they have to find a replacement for Perez in 2024, it will certainly not be Ricciardo.
Pretty silly statements to make imo based off one stint in a clearly odd car philosophy at McLaren. Ricciardo and both Red Bull and AT have said he already feels more comfortable driving their cars then he ever did at McLaren. Dans former engineer Simon Rennie said when he came back to Red Bull his driving style was completely unrecognisable from what they knew. He basically had to unlearn everything and start again. Let that sink in.

After a few goes in the RBR sim he got better until as Simon put it he was back to his old self. It also translated to the track in the Pirelli test where within about 11 laps or so he was setting times in the same ballpark as Max and Checo and what they said would have been good enough for front row start at the Silverstone F1 GP. This was on a green track too and they were testing without tyre warmers. A very impressive test indeed.

As for AT he has also had nothing but praise from the team for how with barely a couple of hours in the car he was straight on the pace at Hungary beating Yuki and his feedback at setting up and helping develop the car has been invaluable.

There is no way when you take all this into consideration including how well he is loved at RBR and now AT that he is not a very good shot at getting the second RBR seat back imo sooner rather than later if Checo keeps imploding.
I'd caution about Dan being able to just slot back in at Red Bull when Checo is moved aside. I'm pretty cautious now about an experienced F1 pilot who couldn't unravel the mysteries of the McLaren that Sainz, Norris and now Piastri could. What confidence then in Dan being able to tame a tricky Red Bull that Max the magician gets sorted at almost every track. Also that Daniel appeared to quickly get up to a level that challenged Yuki, no longer looks a great achievement when an F1 rookie is able to perform at a similar level, and that's not on a Piastri level! It will take a proper trouncing of Yuki at AT for Dan to convince the Red Bull barons that he is back to being a top 4 F1 driver and deserves a seat alongside the World Champion. None of this from me speaks about not wanting Dan to excel (surely we would love to see more truly excellent drivers on the grid), it's just that it looks somehow that the world has moved on and Dan is little more than a midfielder now.
I guess time will tell but I',m also not sure (taking nothing away from Piastri) how much the McLaren improved handling wise after Dan left either. It clearly didn't gel with his style and was called difficult and odd by Carlos and Lando. Dan seems to have something unique about his natural style that doesn't work with that odd handling McLaren car but however did and mostly very well with the other cars he drove. Not being able to handle one car philosophy out of many others he drove previously imo doesn't mean he can't find his form again. Indications from the RB19 test and at AT are positive so it seems there is a decent chance he could be back driving strongly. Again though time will tell starting with the stint now at AT. Fingers crossed he can find that great form again.

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https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/alpha ... /10527884/
technical director Jody Egginton has played down talk of going [as far as running a RB19 clone]. He said that the number of parts that the squad would take from Red Bull would not be much different to what it has done in the past.

“Since we started synergy in 2019, the parts we've selected off the menu have been different, and for next year will be slightly different again,” he said.

“Relative to this year, a bit more. Relative to a couple of the previous years, probably about the same

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Lawson to drive in Qatar. Ricciardo looks ahead to COTA

https://www.espn.com/f1/story/_/id/3855 ... -formula-1

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03 Oct 2023, 12:19
Lawson to drive in Qatar. Ricciardo looks ahead to COTA

https://www.espn.com/f1/story/_/id/3855 ... -formula-1
Disappointing, but I guess not surprising considering how badly his bone was shattered.
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